----- Original Message -----
From: John D'hondt <dhondt@eircom.net>
To: Bluestem Associates <bluestem@webserf.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: Moore/Avery
> With all due respect Bart, but...
>
> On the 28th of June you supplied us with Amazon figures based on Ph D
Moore
> and the Brazilian Agency for the Environment. (abama)
> In short : total rainforest 5 million square kilometers or 500 million ha.
> losses per minute : 4 football fields, per day :2,800 ha,
per
> year 1 million ha
>
> You concluded that the total annual loss was something like 1/4 % of the
> total area per year.
> And this would mean (i.m.o.) that mankind can go on in the present
direction
> for another 400 years or so before the forest is definitely gone.
>
> On the 3rd of July however Klaus Wiegand reacted with figures from abama
> the Brazilian agency for the Environment), based on 1999 satellite
pictures
> and a FAO publication.
> In short : total rainforest 500 million ha.
> losses per minute : 35 football fields , per day : 30,600
ha,
> per year : 12 million ha
> And Klaus was so kind/optimistic as to calculate a reforestation rate of
25%
> in.
>
> This would mean that annually 2.2 % of the forest disappears or in other
> words that everything will be gone in about 30 years. (given that the
total
> area decreases year by year and that the annual destruction is bound to
> increase)
> This is a completely different kettle of fish. This means that we will see
> the end of the rainforest well within our lifetime (we hope ).
>
> The grand question being who is right?
> And secondary questions being, was Moore wrong after all and will you then
> change your mind?
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bluestem Associates <bluestem@webserf.net>
> To: <sanet-mg@ces.ncsu.edu>
> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 12:14 AM
> Subject: Moore/Avery
>
>
> > Moore is a Ph.D.-level ecologist, which suggests to me that he has a
> > rather more firm grounding in his topic area than does Avery. So far, I
> > haven't seen anything Moore has said that I would categorise as
> > flagrantly crazy (which I can't say for Avery). We may all dispute
> > details and approaches (that's what science is about, after all) but I
> > think Moore is at least worth paying attention to. In the areas where I
> > know my stuff, Moore hasn't yet said anything wrong. That lends greater
> > credibility to what he says about those areas in which I'm not so
> > strong.
> >
>
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