Re: Time to Lighten Up

From: Greg & Lei Gunthorp (hey4hogs@kuntrynet.com)
Date: Sat May 20 2000 - 22:41:36 EDT


Honestly people what good does it do to develop or promote systems which are
not economically sustainable? I think that is the biggest short fall of
most conventional AND organic systems.

I've seen a video of Steve's farm. What he is doing out there on those
slopes is extremely different than conventional agriculture.
Greg Gunthorp
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Groff <sgroff@epix.net>
To: Roberto Verzola <rverzola@phil.gn.apc.org>
Cc: sanet <sanet-mg@ces.ncsu.edu>
Date: Thursday, May 18, 2000 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: Time to Lighten Up

>
>
>Roberto Verzola wrote:
>
>>
>> It seems the basic difference between your sustainability and organic
>> sustainability is that your pinnacle is economic/financial
>> sustainability and theirs is ecological sustainability.
>
>Anyone who is sustainable has to be economically viable. Right? Do organic
>farmers not need to make money to survive? The ecological part of
>sustainability is of great importance to me. Often times when I speak to
>conventional farmers they think I am organic. Ask anyone who has been to my
>farm if I care about the environment. I welcome visitors.
>
>--
>Steve Groff
>
>"Enhancing the Environment" http://www.cedarmeadowfarm.com/
>Cedar Meadow Farm
>679 Hilldale Road
>Holtwood, PA 17532 USA
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