why wouldn't a fruit tree and nut tree system when the grower only mows a
cover crop be in . no insecticides no herbicides no fungusides no
ferdilizer nothing coming from out side the =farm except for engery like
water well and electricity and gas. does it have to be no engery to fit .
how do u put things in and out of what sustainable . what are u using when
u say nothing will fit? why ? I know I use water so my well may
disqulafy me even though the water is under my land I need engery to pump it
up and gas for my truck and mower. what do I got to do to be all the way
into the sustainablity u set up? to be in the Groff circle what does it
check out an organic farmers homepage
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Groff" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
To: "sanet" <email@example.com>
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 12:24 PM
Subject: Organics and its relation to Sustainability- Not organic vs.
> In order to clarify my point, I'd like to use a word picture. If you
> have a circle that represents sustainability, organics would be a
> smaller circle within that circle. The smaller organic circle would be
> partially outside the bigger sustainable circle representing that not
> all components of organic agriculture are sustainable. The organic
> circle would not be in the "center" of the sustainable circle as I see
> it. Having said that, my own "Permanent Cover Cropping System" would be
> partly outside the sustainable circle as well representing that my
> system is not the pinnicle of sustainability. Matter of fact I don't
> think "any" system would be completly inside the sustainable circle let
> along in the center. The closest system I can think of that might be in
> the center of the circle is if we all foraged for our own food, which I
> don't think is a viable option at this point.
> I offer this in the spirit of partnership so sustainable agriculture
> remains credible.
> Steve Groff
> "Enhancing the Environment" http://www.cedarmeadowfarm.com/
> Cedar Meadow Farm
> 679 Hilldale Road
> Holtwood, PA 17532 USA
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