On Thu, 18 May 2000, Ted Rogers wrote:
> Very interesting response Lawrence, I have never advocated nor used
> roundup myself, I will let Steve speak for himself, I believe that he uses
> some herbicides in a very limited way in his operation, I also know that
> he has pioneered a method of no till that uses a mechanical method to
> "roll down" cover crops pre-planting.
That is innovative and commendable. Maybe he will eventually be able to
eliminate the use of herbicides in his operation. Then he can call his
farming method organic, natural, regenerative and permanent; oh, and
> Organic used to be many things in our minds that it never was in reality.
> Organic today does not adequately manifest organic principles primarily
> due to advocates who did not understand the ideology that they were
This does not reflect the mindset, expertise and understanding of those
who started the organic agriculture movement. The movement was subverted,
co-opted and abused by unscrupulous profiteers and power freaks.
> No one has done more damage to the organic community
> than the organic community. It is both a shame and shameful that so
The organic community is not represented by those you describe below,
the organic certification crowd.
> called certified organic systems no longer have sustainability and a
> healthy agroecosystem as goals. I watched as a bureaucratic list of
I agree. We can do a lot to help change that though. Sal has contributed
much that will help in this.
> allowed and prohibited substances became the core of organic practice
> and was appalled, I was even fool enough to try to stop it. Alas so go
> so many of our youthful ideals.
Why is this allowed to happen. We need a solid network of truly
organic, sustainable farmers who work toward achieving healthy
agroecosystems on their farms. Permaculture (even though Bluestem may
disagree) offers easy and effective methods to them.
Lawrence F. London, Jr. Venaura Farm ICQ#27930345
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