On Thu, 18 May 2000, Wilson, Dale wrote:
> Ted wrote:
> >>> Sustainable and organically grown are becoming
> >>> less compatible terms by the hour.
> Steve wrote:
> >> Ted is right. In the context of sustainability, organic
> >> agricaulture is too restrictive to allow for ideal sustainable
> >> expression. It's not a bad system by
> > Its "farmers" like you who have tainted the term, coined years
> > ago when it truly meant organic, regenerative, natural and
> > permanent, sustainable agriculture;
> First it was "LISA" then it was "sustainable agriculture" I have been
> hearing these terms for many years in the ag science community. The only
> place I have heard "sustainable agriculture" equated with "organic" is on
> this list, and then only by a few people.
Dale, you are quick on the trigger :-) I am referring to times before LISA
(came long after the term sustainable agriculture began being used) and
long before sanet. I started the newsgroup alt.sustainable.agriculture
when, as far as I was able to tell, sustainable agriculture meant loosely
"sustainably" organic, natural, regenerative and permanent. It began being
co-opted shortly thereafter. I guess that's only natural :-)
> > I've watched your pompous pronouncements here for years...
> > Organic _used_ to be "the ultimate goal of sustainability" until
> > money hogs of your ilk got into the act.
> Lawrence, This kind of language is an affront to the list. I have the
> utmost respect for Steve, I think he is a good manager, and that he cares
> about the environment and people. What I hear from you is shrill and
Only matching his thrust, Dale. Completely fair.
> self-defeating ideological extremism. I think you should apologize.
You may join GG Liddy in calling unswerving proponents of organic
agriculture [those who indulge in] "self-defeating ideological idealism".
You won't beat us down.
Lawrence F. London, Jr. Venaura Farm ICQ#27930345
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