I think that is because the USDA did not want organic to be better
ecologically so they framed their mischif and made a law where their USDA
organic is not better for the earth . they had to do that to win the farmers
vote. and don't forget that organic is not a political football and the
definition of organic is decided by hard money soft money and under the
table money. so don't take USDA organic to be real organic. real organic
is better for the earth and is ecologically better. dont mix the two up .
check out an organic farmers homepage
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelly, Terry" <T.C.Kelly@massey.ac.nz>
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 8:05 PM
Subject: RE: Organics have more nutrients??
> I agree that simply following organic guidelines required for
> does not imply that the system is ecologically sustainable. But why is
> point 3 required?
> > Bluestem Associates wrote:
> > > 1) There is nothing that prohibits a conventional grower from using
> > > some or all of the techniques commonly attributed to (but rarely
> > > employed by) "organic" farmers. Such as good rotations, green manures,
> > > compost, refugia for beneficial insects, etc, etc.
> > >
> > > 2) There is nothing that prohibits a conventional grower from using
> > > some or all of the slowly available mineral nutrients commonly
> > > attributed to (but rarely employed in) "organic" production. Such as
> > > rock phosphate, sul-po-mag, gypsum, etc. etc.
> > >
> > > 3) Combine 1 and 2 with judicious use of carefully selected chemical
> > > fertilisers (such as ammonium sulphate, mono-ammonium phosphate,
> > > potassium chloride and micronutrients) along with judicious use of
> > > carefully selected chemical pesticides (such as Imidan, Roundup, and
> > > assorted fungicides).
> > >
> > > I would say that with such a system the conventional grower will
> > > harvest a better *quality* product than the vast majority of organic
> > > growers who, in their stubborn infatuation with materials issues, may
> > > get it right about not using "chemicals" but generally miss the boat
> > > soil building, mineral nutrients, organic matter management, nitrogen
> > > fixation, understanding the weed community .... and on and on.
> > Bart's comments are right on the money. The quest for healthy food,
> > nutrition, and environmental responsibility does not end with adopting
> > organic
> > practices. The recipe is found somewhere in points 1,2, and 3 above.
> > --
> > Steve Groff
> > "Enhancing the Environment" http://www.cedarmeadowfarm.com/
> > Cedar Meadow Farm
> > 679 Hilldale Road
> > Holtwood, PA 17532 USA
> [Terry Kelly] ~><~><~><~><~><~><~><~><~><~><~><~><~><~><~><~><~><~><~
> Terry C. Kelly
> Institute of Natural Resources
> College of Sciences, Massey University
> Palmerston North, New Zealand
> phone: +64 6 350-5517
> fax: +64 6 350-5680
> The green Earth is the meadow we graze in, the ground we are shaped from,
> the daily bread that keeps body and soul together.
> - The Sacred Balance by David Suzuki, 1997
> To Unsubscribe: Email firstname.lastname@example.org with the command
> "unsubscribe sanet-mg". If you receive the digest format, use the command
> "unsubscribe sanet-mg-digest".
> To Subscribe to Digest: Email email@example.com with the command
> "subscribe sanet-mg-digest".
> All messages to sanet-mg are archived at:
To Unsubscribe: Email firstname.lastname@example.org with the command
"unsubscribe sanet-mg". If you receive the digest format, use the command
To Subscribe to Digest: Email email@example.com with the command
All messages to sanet-mg are archived at:
This archive was generated by hypermail 2b29 : Thu May 11 2000 - 22:02:13 EDT