Re: sanet-mg-digest V1 #1760

From: sal (sals@rain.org)
Date: Sun Apr 30 2000 - 09:20:27 EDT


I agree with u . Its hard enough to bring a crop to market and the market
is still price minded and for them to burden the organic farmer with more
forced fees and taxes just because he is organic is a real rip off and a
burden. Just like the fact that the organic farmer has to give up a buffer
zone. I think we all have a right to farm but your right ends on the fence
line. this side of the fence is mine. the chemical farmer should give up
the buffer zone and not drift over to my land. the USDA says that if there
is drift I the non drifter has to pay . what is with that. and not only
that with these new GMOs they say I have to have a bigger buffer zone and
they can buffer zone me right out of my land. what is with this. they can
natural growing a nitch it is not a nitch it is a way to live. The USDA
will not let people sue because they are into chemical trespass so much that
they would have to stop their wickedness if such was true. they would not
be able to pollute our water the air the earth if they were held responsible
but no they say the non polluter must pay. what is with these folks.
grower in other parts of the world say we are not taking that Gmo cancer
because it is living and spreading to unwanted places and the USDA say too
bad and infect is forcing them to take GMO.s by them calling organic a
nitch they can justify their wickedness . we need to be able to sue for
chemical trespass we need to be able to sue if a company tells us that the
seed is non gmo and it turns out to be GMO. we need some way to protect
ourselves from chemical trespass . and making a bigger buffer zone is not
fair. it is time to make those that pollute pay and it is time to give some
relief to the non polluters. the USDA is releasing GMO they are alive and
they spread and yet the USDA says too bad just move your buffer zone , why
because chemical trespass is a way of life for the USDA if that were not so
we would not have herbicides in our drinking water, we would not have
nitrites in our water we would not have gmo genes jumping in and jumping out
and jumping the fence. chemical trespass we need a right to sue the
trespassers. it must stop at the fence line . no buffer zone . I have a
right to farm too and that means stop them at the fence post. if it comes
on this side you pay. that goes for the USDA the chemical farmers and
anyone else . the buffer zone should be on them. not on us. IMHO the
USDA is bias against organic growers and anyone else that wants to stop this
cancer on the earth. They drift I loose what is with that. they
contaminate the water the earth and we all loose . how is it that the USDA
can make a law that if their GMOs cross over the fence its my fault because
I am organic and I just have to give up my land. what wickness. if they
sell u non GMO seeds and they turn out to be GMO seeds they show me that
even they can not control this cancer and they are spreading it all over the
earth. your right to farm ends where my right to farm starts . you should
not have the right to drift and I should not give up a buffer zone. they
should not be allowed to drift into our water or drift into our school yards
or drift into our food supply. if they do they should pay the poor folks
that this drift is happening too. this chemical trespass that makes the
organic farmer pay and make the customer pay and make the earth pay must
end. let the law suits start. if you have chemical drift in your water ,on
your land find the name and make them pay. it is the only way to stop
chemical and GMO trespass. this organic law they are about to pass must
allow for chemical trespass or it is just a ruse to kill off the natural
farmer and a way of life. I can not contaminate them it is they that
contaminates we. The whole world is watching the USDA and what they see is
the same old same old. kill off the small organic grower and kill off any
one that gets in their way. bigger buffer zones on the backs of the organic
grower is not fair. keep you stuff on your side of the fence and off my
land and out of my water . if you can't do that don't spray don't release
stuff you cannot control. if it shows up in the water stop selling it and
using it. easy. don't blame me I don't use it. don't take my land I don't
use it don't force me to segregate my stuff I don't use any. don't charge
me fees and make me do the paper work because I don't use any. NO way NO
fair . who is protecting us from chemical trespass not the USDA. they are
releasing stuff that no one can control. they are forcing the contaminated
to pay and the contaminators skat. the proof is in the pudding. the USDA
cannot control their chemical and GMO drift and want to kill us off by
buffering away our land. What is with that.
check out an organic farmers homepage
http://www.rain.org/~sals/my.html
sals@rain.,org
----- Original Message -----
From: "John D'hondt" <dhondt@eircom.net>
To: "sal" <sals@rain.org>; "sanet" <sanet-mg@ces.ncsu.edu>
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: sanet-mg-digest V1 #1760

> Just a few remarks,
>
> I see just about everybody taking it for granted that organic farmers make
> more money/profit. What is happening around me however does not point this
> way.
> How many eggs does a battery hen produce in a day with a two hours light /
> two hours dark cycle + chemical stimulation? 5 or more on average? Against
> less than one for mine.
> An industrial broiler reaches slaughter weight 41 days after atching. In
my
> system it takes at least 8 times as long to reach the same weight.
> Forced lambs of less than three months old and weighing 50 kg+ are making
> very good money in our local sales today. By the time that my organic lamb
> reaches slaughter weight in another four months or so, prices typically
drop
> by half.
> The mark up for my organic product is perhaps 10 to 15 %.
>
> So I don't have to be organic for the money in it. One of my compensations
> lay in the fact that the chemical farming revolution made the farming
> profession one of the most dangerous on earth. Chemical farmers have a
> typical life expectancy at least ten years below average. And they tend to
> poison their children as well. And with all that most of them hardly make
a
> decent living either.
>
> So I do not think that it is just a matter of not caring about chemical
> trespass. I think the poison users hate the organic man with a vengeance.
> They probably know that he leads a healthier life and they think that he
is
> making more money at it. Human nature being what it is, they probably
enjoy
> inflicting a bit of chemical trespass.
>
> Imo it would be a very good thing if the myth of high returns in organic
> farming came to an end.
> it would also be great if some of the cheer-leaders for the chemical lobby
> got of their back sides in their institutes and started doing a bit of
> practical work. It might just give them what they richly deserve.
> John
>
> ---- Original Message -----
> From: sal <sals@rain.org>
> To: sanet <sanet-mg@ces.ncsu.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 5:29 PM
> Subject: Fw: sanet-mg-digest V1 #1760
>
>
> > they don't know the meaning of chemical traspass. they don't care and
> never
> > did,
> > check out an organic farmers homepage
> > http://www.rain.org/~sals/my.html
> > sals@rain.,org
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "TONY NELSON-SMITH" <tangolf@cwcom.net>
> > To: <bdnow@envirolink.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 8:21 AM
> > Subject: Re: sanet-mg-digest V1 #1760
> >
> >
> > > Just to remind you that, here in Britain, the situation is
> apparently
> > > that beekeepers who find a GM crop which would provide pollen or
nectar
> > for
> > > their bees, thus contaminating their honey (which could no longer
> legally
> > be
> > > labelled as "pure honey" - how come the authorities have been
insisting
> > that
> > > there's nothing wrong with GM foods ?) are expected to remove their
> hives
> > to
> > > a site at least six miles away, with no prospect of compensation. It
> > seems
> > > that they are even expected to sus out where the GM crops are to be
> > > planted - no-one will tell them.
> > > This seems so unreasonable that my Member of Parliament and my
Welsh
> > > Assembly Member are both checking with their respective Agriculture
> > > Departments for me. At least they'll know that someone has twigged
> their
> > > little game and is bitching about it; at best, it will turn out to be
a
> > big
> > > mistake in someone's reporting (but don't hold your breath !)
> > > Tony N-S
> > >
> >
> >
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