SANET request (RE Clinton's egg plan)
From: Roberto Verzola (rverzola@phil.gn.apc.org)
Date: Fri Apr 21 2000 - 07:02:12 EDT
Christos asked me to post this on SANET because his messages to the
list were somehow not being posted. Pls address to him your replies.
Roberto Verzola
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To: sanet-mg@ces.ncsu.edu
From: Christos Vasilikiotis <christos@home.com>
Subject: RE: Clinton's egg plan
At 6:53 PM -0500 4/19/00, Wilson, Dale wrote:
>Misha,
>
>> Having survived the cholesterol scare of the '90s, the
>> egg is facing perhaps a tougher foe: President Clinton's
>> Egg Safety Action Plan.
>
>> By its own estimates, the government believes that only
>> 1 in 20,000 eggs contains Salmonella enteritidis,...
>> at a rate of five deaths a year, fewer people die from
>> eating Salmonella enteritidis-tainted eggs than from
>> lightning strikes.
>
>>`I think of this as a power struggle between business wanting
>> to go on as usual and the consumers saying you can't make us
> > sick anymore,'
>
>The irony here is that the same statistical naivety, and lack of
>appreciation of scale is what has driven the phobia against
>pesticide residues.
Dale,
One has to wonder who has a lack of appreciation of scale! No one is
injecting Salmonella into eggs (except maybe factory farms which
cause salmonella epidemics through unsanitary conditions), whereas,
billions of tons of toxic pesticides are intentionally sprayed
throughout the world.
> Except that the connection between pesticide residues and illness
>is harder to prove than the Salmonella/illness connection.
>
>Dale
I am always surprised to find out that are people who think that
pesticides are harmless. Even Monsanto, one of the biggest pesticide
manufacturers, is now admitting that pesticides are causing both
health and environmental problems of enormous proportions. Just a few
examples from their pesticide fact sheet (found on their web site
http://www.biotechknowledge.com/showlib_biotech.php3?2) that indicate
that there is a direct link between pesticides and illness for both
consumers and farm workers (who need protection too):
* Number of pesticides presently on the market that were
registered before being tested to determine if they caused cancer,
birth defects or wildlife toxicity: 400.
* Amount of time it takes to ban a pesticide in the U.S. using
present procedures: 10 years.
* Number of active ingredients in pesticides found to cause
cancer in animals or humans: 107.
[My note: in many cases the "inactive" ingredients can also be toxic]
* Of those active ingredients, the number still in use today: 83.
* Number of pesticides that are reproductive toxins according
to the California E.P.A.: 15.
* Number of pesticides found to cause reproductive problems in
animals: 14.
* Most serious cause of groundwater pollution confirmed in
California: agricultural chemicals.
* Number of pesticides found in drinking wells of California
since 1982: 68.
* Number of people in the U.S. routinely drinking water
contaminated with carcinogenic herbicides: 14 million.
* Percentage of municipal water treatment facilities lacking
equipment to remove these chemicals from the drinking water: 90%.
* Percentage of all food samples tested by the FDA in 1980
which contained pesticide residues: 38%.
* Of the 496 pesticides identified as likely to leave residues
in food, the percentage which FDA tests can routinely detect: 40%.
[My note: which means that 60% of those pesticides we do not even
know if they leave residue on food. Who is naive for worrying about
pesticide residues?]
* Increase in cancer rates between 1950 and 1986: 37%.
* Number of people in the U.S. who die each year from cancer
related to pesticides: 10,400.
* Highest rate of chemical-related illness of any occupational
group in the U.S.A.: farm workers.
* Pesticide-related illnesses among farm workers in U.S.A. each
year: Approximately 300,000.
Copyright 1999 Monsanto All Rights Reserved
Peace,
Chris
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Berkeley, CA, USA
* the Earth laughs in flowers *
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<div>Dear Roberto,</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I am sorry to bother you, but since you also responded to this
topic, I was wondering if you could post the following post on
pesticides and health for me on the SANET list.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I have been having problems with SANET list serve, it does not
accept my postings. I also tried to unsubscribe and then resubscribe
with no luck and the list admin hasn't responded yet.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div> Thanks,</div>
<div>Chris</div>
<div><br></div>
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<blockquote>To: sanet-mg@ces.ncsu.edu</blockquote>
<blockquote>From: Christos Vasilikiotis
<christos@home.com></blockquote>
<div>Subject: RE: Clinton's egg plan</div>
<blockquote>Cc: ,</blockquote>
<blockquote>Bcc:</blockquote>
<div>X-Attachments:</div>
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<div>At 6:53 PM -0500 4/19/00, Wilson, Dale wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Misha,<br>
<br>
> Having survived the cholesterol scare of the '90s, the<br>
> egg is facing perhaps a tougher foe: President Clinton's<br>
> Egg Safety Action Plan.<br>
<br>
> By its own estimates, the government believes that only<br>
> 1 in 20,000 eggs contains Salmonella enteritidis,...<br>
> at a rate of five deaths a year, fewer people die from<br>
> eating Salmonella enteritidis-tainted eggs than from<br>
> lightning strikes.<br>
<br>
>`I think of this as a power struggle between business wanting<br>
> to go on as usual and the consumers saying you can't make
us</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>> sick anymore,'</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> </blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>The irony here is that the same
statistical naivety, and lack of appreciation of scale is what has
driven the phobia against pesticide residues.</blockquote>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Dale,</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>One has to wonder who has a lack of appreciation of scale! No
one is injecting Salmonella into eggs (except maybe factory farms
which cause salmonella epidemics through unsanitary conditions),
whereas, billions of tons of toxic pesticides are intentionally
sprayed throughout the world.</div>
<div><br></div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> Except that the connection between
pesticide residues and illness<br>
is harder to prove than the Salmonella/illness
connection.</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Dale</blockquote>
<div><br></div>
<div>I am always surprised to find out that are people who think that
pesticides are harmless. Even Monsanto, one of the biggest pesticide
manufacturers, is now admitting that pesticides are causing both
health and environmental problems of enormous proportions. Just a few
examples from their pesticide fact sheet (found on their web site
http://www.biotechknowledge.com/showlib_
></span>biotech.php3?2) that indicate that there is a direct link
between pesticides and illness for both consumers and farm workers
(who need protection too):</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><font color="#000000"><b><br></b></font></div>
<div><font
color="#000000">*<x-tab>
</x-tab>Number of pesticides presently on the market that were
registered before being tested to determine if they caused cancer,
birth defects or wildlife toxicity:<b> 400.</b></font><br>
</div>
<div><font
color="#000000">*<x-tab>
</x-tab>Amount of time it takes to ban a pesticide in the U.S. using
present procedures:<b> 10 years.</b></font><br>
</div>
<div><font
color="#000000">*<x-tab>
</x-tab>Number of active ingredients in pesticides found to cause
cancer in animals or humans:<b> 107.</b></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000"><b><br></b></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000"><b>[My note: in many cases the
"inactive" ingredients can also be toxic]</b></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000"><b><br></b></font></div>
<div><font
color="#000000">*<x-tab>
</x-tab>Of those active ingredients, the number still in use
today:<b> 83.</b></font><br>
</div>
<div><font
color="#000000">*<x-tab>
</x-tab>Number of pesticides that are reproductive toxins according
to the California E.P.A.:<b> 15.</b></font><br>
</div>
<div><font
color="#000000">*<x-tab>
</x-tab>Number of pesticides found to cause reproductive problems in
animals:<b> 14.</b></font><br>
</div>
<div><font
color="#000000">*<x-tab>
</x-tab>Most serious cause of groundwater pollution confirmed in
California:<b> agricultural chemicals.</b></font><br>
</div>
<div><font
color="#000000">*<x-tab>
</x-tab>Number of pesticides found in drinking wells of California
since 1982:<b> 68.</b></font><br>
</div>
<div><font
color="#000000">*<x-tab>
</x-tab>Number of people in the U.S. routinely drinking water
contaminated with carcinogenic herbicides:<b> 14
million.</b></font><br>
</div>
<div><font
color="#000000">*<x-tab>
</x-tab>Percentage of municipal water treatment facilities lacking
equipment to remove these chemicals from the drinking water:<b>
90%.</b></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000"><b><br></b></font></div>
<div><font
color="#000000">*<x-tab>
</x-tab>Percentage of all food samples tested by the FDA in 1980
which contained pesticide residues:<b> 38%.</b></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000"><b><br></b></font></div>
<div><font
color="#000000">*<x-tab>
</x-tab>Of the 496 pesticides identified as likely to leave residues
in food, the percentage which FDA tests can routinely detect:<b>
40%.</b></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000"><b><br></b></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000"><b>[My note: which means that 60% of
those pesticides we do not even know if they leave residue on food.
Who is naive for worrying about pesticide residues?]</b></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000"><b><br></b></font></div>
<div><font
color="#000000">*<x-tab>
</x-tab>Increase in cancer rates between 1950 and 1986:<b>
37%.</b></font><br>
</div>
<div><font
color="#000000">*<x-tab>
</x-tab>Number of people in the U.S. who die each year from cancer
related to pesticides:<b> 10,400.</b></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000"><b><br></b></font></div>
<div><font
color="#000000">*<x-tab>
</x-tab>Highest rate of chemical-related illness of any occupational
group in the U.S.A.:<b> farm workers.</b></font></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><font
color="#000000">*<x-tab>
</x-tab>Pesticide-related illnesses among farm workers in U.S.A. each
year:<b> Approximately 300,000.</b></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000"><b><br></b></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000">Copyright 1999</font><font
color="#003333"> Monsanto</font><font color="#000000"> All Rights
Reserved</font></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Peace,</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Chris</div>
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></span>-=-=-=<br>
Chris
Vasilikiotis
christosv@home.com<br>
Berkeley, CA, USA<br>
<br>
<x-tab> </x-tab>* the Earth laughs in flowers *<br>
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