<A.LEE> ------Original Message------
<A.LEE> From: "Andy Lee & Pat Foreman" <goodearth@rockbridge.net>
<A.LEE> To: sanet-mg@cals.ncsu.edu
<A.LEE> Sent: April 19, 2000 1:13:18 AM GMT
<A.LEE> Subject: Phillipines micro-farming
<A.LEE> Lion said:
<A.LEE> > Naegal spent his time disparaging Phillippino self-help efforts
<A.LEE> which are
<A.LEE> > (1) easy to learn, (2) cheap to impliment, (3) have an
<A.LEE> established cultural
<A.LEE> > taste and market acceptance, and (4) convert waste to valuable
<A.LEE> products.
<A.LEE> > Naegal has made no effort to educate himself, but uses his <A.LEE> time destructively
<A.LEE> > to discourage, rather than constructively to encourage. Naegle owes
<A.LEE> an explanation for this aberrant behavior.
<A.LEE> Quite the contrary, Naegal asks the very real questions that we
<A.LEE> would all like to see answered. Very easy to grow, yes, but <A.LEE> <A.LEE> if mushrooms and
rabbits are not part of the Phillippino diet, then
<A.LEE> where is the market?
<A.LEE> Rather than bashing Naegal, try answering his questions. It
<A.LEE> would serve us all a lot better.
<A.LEE> Thanks,
<A.LEE> Andy Lee
You will note that Naegal drew first blood, threw the first stone, fired the first salvo, when he
used sarcasm about the "happy Phillipinos" with their hundreds of rabbits, and then underlined his
intentions through the remainder of his transmission.
You will note that I reserve myself until the GOLDEN RULE has been displayed: courtesy to the
courteous, and verbiage to the verbose. As you have shown how you want to be treated by your prior
behavior I honor your requests. In absense of prior hostilities my default is courtesy and
helpfulness. The archives of SANET-MG will prove this is true.
He was answered. In part at least. The 1979 report cited by the weblink I already provided:
"http://www.unu.edu/unupress/unupbooks/80434e/80434E00.htm
"© The United Nations University 1979"
http://www.unu.edu/unupress/unupbooks/80434e/80434E0m.htm"
Had either of you bothered to read these two webpages before writing you would have been informed of
facts. Some of the facts at these websites might be beneficial to you. After all, what crop can you
name that you can produce a salable return in less than two weeks from planting? The Phillipino's
know how to do that, and both Naegal and Andy Lee might find it profitable to read their website
description of how they have been doing this thing since at least 1979 when this online book was
published by the U.N. In fact, it was in the 1930's that cultivating Tropical Mushrooms (Volvariella
species) was introduced to the Phillipines, and they are very popular in that country.
Since Naegal took no pains to inquire on any decent search engine before writing his obviously
sarcastic and intentionally discouraging publication, I do not excuse him for his negligence. You,
Andy Lee, had the citations before your face when you wrote to say I had not answered him in both an
informative manner plus in a manner appropriate to the tone of his publically placed statements.
I did not answer the issue of rabbits, but could also provide citations equally informative to both
developed world and developing world microfarmers which address every aspect of that fact also.
However, since I have no information that either Naegal or Andy Lee have any impairment preventing
them from typing requests into "http://www.GOOGLE.COM" on these subjects, why should I provide you
with information which you really seem not to desire to possess? The information is easily
available, but when I provide the weblinks you do not read them, so your question is a foil for some
hidden motive.
People seem to forget, that I publically acknowledged a debt of gratitude to the farmers of the
Phillipines for showing and teaching me how they already did this mushroom cultivation far easier
than any method I knew. This started the whole "Microfarming in the Phillipines" thread. I never
tried to teach them: I thanked them for teaching me. Naegal then accuses me of making their easy
system seem deceptively easy as I try to foist it on them! This is getting bizarre! People seem
primed to leap with negativity on everything discussed which might offer more alternatives to small
farmings working in a bind?
I think you negative people ought to write your plan on what meets your approval. Open yourselves up
to criticism by taking a courageous stand and saying "Here's some recommendations I can make for
people with practically no land and practically no investment money". What's your good ideas?
Sincerely, Lion Kuntz
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