In the early 80's I found much encouragement from the developing
decentralized self- help education and emphasis on practice and
experience-based learning that Permaculture brought forward.
It may seem like a pyramid scheme to the Lion guy with the cutesy name, but
the currency I've seen is more informational than luchre.
I wonder what product he is selling?
Something got him stirred up, maybe he could plant something everyplace and
become a world expert, comment critically on some listserv and make web
pages.
i guess I'll go planting now.
Bruce Bacon
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>Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 17:15:56 -0400
>From: "Andy Lee & Pat Foreman" <goodearth@rockbridge.net>
>Subject: Permaculture design systems
>
>> Permaculture is most noted as being a
>> system designed to sell very-high-priced seminars on how to
>>permaculture. Each
>> owner of a permaculture course graduatation certificate becomes a new sales
>> pitchman for permaculture without necessarily ever having sold one
>>tomato ever
>> to anyone. Agriculture is more than private home subsistance gardening.
>Agriculture
>> is the feeding of the population who is not farmer/gardeners.
>>Permaculture has
>made
>> no contributions to agriculture which did not already previously exist in
>> the public
>> domain, and which already public property did not require expensive seminars
>or a
>> cutesy name to use.
>>
>>
>> Signed by Lion Kuntz
>
>Dear Lion, the above could not be farther from the truth. Indeed,
>Permaculture (and yes I am one who holds a design certificate as well as a
>graduate certificate from the Permaculture Institute) is the basis for your
>so-called micro-farming scheme. The difference is, that there are tens of
>thousands of permaculture practitioners around the world, and so far as I
>can tell, based on your bashing of everyone else, you are the only
>micro-farmer. That alone speaks volumes as to which system is most
>sustainable thereby most attractive to small-scale agriculturists.
>
>Your tirades are becoming a bit tiring. We are all willing to learn, but
>your message is getting lost in your spew.
>
>With all due respect,
>
>Andy Lee
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