Saturday, April 15, 2000, 6:43:58 PM, you wrote:
JDh> I agree with you that it is essential to follow all possible avenues to
JDh> counter mercenary elements (lying scumbags).
I posted info re principal protagonists mentioned, along with a few
indications as to how to proceed. Their specialty is co-opting
JDh> My instincts would favor Mikes approach though.
I repeat - it's not an either or situation, and the goal is
convincing the largest segment of the population possible, or the
the largest possible segment of the thinking population. There's no
one approach. Illuminating the sell out factor is crucial, but so is
responsible science - getting access to what's been done, and
getting more done.
<snip> No disagreement.
JDh> There is really a need for an environmentally minded "think
JDh> tank" consisting of a great variety of scientist. Psychiatrist
JDh> and psychologist to profile mercenaries and decision makers so
JDh> that one has at least an idea how to talk reason to them.
JDh> Accountant to follow trails of mercenary funds. And probably a
JDh> good few others that are not so obvious at first sight.
Fine. But it can be done virtually - i.e. via the Internet. It's
just a matter of coordinating the collaboration. Special list
servers can be set up, so can websites - and some of us have done
this before, to a limited degree. Others are totally involved and
growing stronger doing it. Like Mark Ritchie's group.
JDh> I don't think this is especially fighting dirty, rest assured
JDh> that the baddies are already using these techniques.
It's not dirty. It's strategic.
JDh> " Life is a battle. And falling is part it. But not fighting at
JDh> all makes the soul rot."
JDh> Felix Timmermans ( Flemish author)
There's not worse than fighting except losing.
Douglas (sanet author)
JDh> For a non combatant you are not doing so badly in my opinion.
Thanks. What makes you think I'm a non combatant? Maybe I can do
more with a clear head.
I had a little dog that never picked a fight (except when the bitch
was in heat, and that was with a great dane). I've seen him get bit
all over, while he only bit just once, and never let go. Sometimes
it was just a piece of skin in the cervical region. When the
other dog grew tired, he'd calmly shift his bite a bit, and go
farther in, until he had the other dogs trachea between his jaws.
I think you get the picture.
Earlier today I sent Greenpeace Mexico quite a bit of legal
background regarding Mexican law and and some options, with respect
to what they're doing to prevent GMO corn imports.
But my main line is not activism - it's in providing alternatives to
the inferior, money grubbing reality and the architects of it that
you and Mike describe.
That which gives life - what Hugh called vitality - I also call it
intrinsic value - that's where it's at - and protecting that is part
of the game plan - an important and necessary part. I just *know*
that this time around, those betting their money on GMOs are going
to lose their shirts, and I mean big. But just like R.J. Reynolds
and the like, when forced to pay damages (for tobacco caused
deaths), they change their product lines.
Do you think Starkist wanted to handle "Dolphin Safe" Tuna? But when
they were forced to do so by another grass roots movement, they
bought the certifiers - or the certifiers became mercenary
themselves, once it became big business. In any case, it became a
corner on a market, just like organics is becoming or has become to
a degree. The point is that the life, the vitality, is not in the
label - *any* label. And it never will be.
Mary-Howell is perfectly right in what she says. Yet so is -Bart.
And Bart knows - he was a founding member of OCIA among other
antecedents. So how can this discrepancy be accounted for? It seems
that the organic movement's like the human body - some parts of it
are prettier than others.
They're both right - and the important thing is to keep moving in he
right (and not the wrong) direction.
Where ever it is that "we" want to go, we've got to depart from
where we are. We have to begin with what we know, in order to get to
what we need to know. We also need to share the task, which isn't
easy - since there are differences in orientation, manner and
experiences. The authority structure is another problem. But where
the spirit is strong the flesh will follow. And we need to be sure
both are well fed.
And just remember that the most foul, stinking rotten, inhuman acts
that were ever carried out by human beings were done by "true
believers" who figured they had the truth by the tail. Just ask them
in Cambodia, or those attacked by Joe McCarthy.
So hang loose and plan well what you do.
Only do what you intend to back up, and always stand up for what you
do. Doug's law.
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