Friday, March 17, 2000, 8:28:44 AM, you wrote:
(I took the liberty to correct the punctuation, in order follow your
logic more clearly.)
s> Talk about Science - when we find herbicide in our water supply, do
s> they stop using herbicides? No, so consumers have to drink
s> herbicide! That's Science for you! And what about the Delainie
s> clause (where they found some pesticides cause cancer)? What did
s> Science do? They got rid of the delaine clause! And what about the
s> gas farmers use to kill all life in the soil? Science found it
s> destroys the ozone! So what do they do? They keep using it! Now they
s> are using their so called Science to kill off organic growers.
Sal, you are perfectly right about the inconsistency of the above -
it's incongruent and unfair. However, I disagree with lumping all
scientific activities - as well as all those who believe in and/or
contribute to them, together in one broad category.
The point is, just as there are good farmers and bad farmers (as well
as many who are good in some ways and not so good in others), the same
is true for scientists, legislators, lawyers, barbers, bankers,
butchers, bakers and candle stick makers.
Also, science is a method and can be used for many purposes. I suggest
you find and save good examples of it that support your own, so that
you don't get caught unprepared.
The important thing is for each to be aware as possible of the
underlying issues that affect us and also to maintain those who share
our concerns informed of what we know to be true. Webs of confidence
result from that and gaining the public's trust is never a simple
matter, it's a long term process and many are involved (although it's
not necessary to convince everyone in order for things to come out as
they should). In any case, there's no other row to how and if the row
is straight enough and has the right gradient, the water will flow to
The ball game's not over and your concerns are shared by may of us -
you are far from alone.
Douglas Hinds - CeDeCoR, A.C.
Centro para el Desarrollo Comunitario y Rural, Asociacion Civil
(Center for Rural and Community Development,
a Mexican non-profit organization)
Cordoba, Veracruz; Cd. Guzman, Jalisco; Loma Bonita, Oaxaca
& Reynosa, Tamaulipas Mexico
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s> Thats the USDA / Science and thanks to the back door money and the
s> under the table money and the votes and the hard money and the soft
s> money that's the Science they are working on the people. they are
s> real good at this Science ,the Science of fooling the people and
s> enslaving them. they know GMO jump out and contaminate yet they
s> still release GMOs. they use their so called Science to fool the
s> people ., that's the USDA Science IMHO fool the people. if organic
s> folks have to have a farm plan all farmers have to have a farm plan
s> . if organic farmers have to post what they are using for all to
s> see all farmers must post what they are using for all to see. if
s> organic farmers need inspections all farmers need inspections. If
s> organic growers can't use shit all farmers can;t uses shit. if
s> organic farmers have to tell how much space they give their
s> livestock all farmers should tell how they treat livestock. this is
s> getting nuts. organic farmers no longer have a right to farm . and
s> their is Science bs. even when they find pesticide in baby food and
s> even though they find kid are small and pesticide hurt them more
s> they keep up with their shit. The real Science the USDA uses is the
s> Science of get their own way. when farm workers got sick from being
s> around pesticides they hired more farm workers that's their
s> Science. they want to bring back DDT and with their Science they
s> can do it. its the Science of get money and get votes . look what
s> the USDA did to black growers back then well now they are doing it
s> again with the organic grower. that's their Science. Junk Science
s> bullshit in bullshit comes out. its all getting to be bullshit ..
s> and I don't mean composted bullshit I mean fresh stinking bullshit.
s> and the farmer hauled another load away and by the smell you can
s> tell it was not hey. it was the USDA . they have taking over the
s> word organic and stole every thing we have worked for and they can
s> it theirs now and its their word. give the word organic back to the
s> people. just say no . $5000 is a small farm and this is Science.
s> most farmers that sell organic are small these are the folks that
s> will be the 1st to drop out and the USDA knows that yet they talk
s> about helping the small grower yea the small grower making less the
s> $5000. that's their Science for u.
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