On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Dave Miller wrote:
> Can anyone inform of a list(serve) nationally or internationally that is
> intended for discussion specificically toward the following:
> Organic or organic growing only
> Vegatarian issues that don't employ animal rights issues
> Strictly growing/eating for vegan reasons
You can try this one - you'll probably find many kindred souls there.
Just ask. LL
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Welcome to the Market Farming e-mail list and discussion group
FAQ
Frequently Asked Questions about the Market Farming discussion group
1. What is the Market Farming discussion group?
2. Market Farming defined
3. How do I subscribe to Market Farming?
4. How do I unsubscribe from Market Farming?
5. What is appropriate to post to Market Farming?
6. How do I post to Market Farming?
7. Where can I find archives of Market Farming?
8. What are some other Market Farming resources on the World Wide Web.
1. WHAT IS Market Farming?
Name of list: market-farming
Posting address for list: market-farming@franklin.oit.unc.edu
market-farming@franklin.oit.unc.edu is a mailing list/newsgroup/webforum
for networking among farmers of small acreage whose primary marketing
outlets are consumer-direct and local.
We hope to see discussions on appropriate scale production methods and
equipment, marketing and profitability, cropping sequences and
diversification, sustainability, both of the land and of the farm family,
working with extension agents, private consultants, and fellow farmers, in
other words, all those things involved in making a living providing food
and fiber from your small acreage.
The listowners are:
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Marcie A. Rosenzweig
Full Circle Organic Farm
fullcircle@jps.net
Elizabeth Pike
Morningstar Gardens
pike@always-online.com
Lawrence F. London, Jr.
Venaura Farm
lflondon@mindspring.com
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2. WHAT IS A MARKET FARM?
For the purposes of this list, a Market Farm is a small acreage farm whose
primary marketing outlets are consumer-direct and local. Generally, we
find
farms of 2 -20 acres having similar production, marketing, and time
problems. We don't screen for acreage when you sign up, but if you're not
trying to make a living from your land, or you're applying for USDA crop
subsidies, or shipping veggies overseas in 747s, you probably won't find
this an appropriate forum for your concerns.
Most growers on this list use organic, biodynamic, or sustainable
production practices. Direct marketing through local and regional
farmers'markets, roadside stands, to restaurants, and through Community
Supported Agriculture shares and subscriptions is the norm.
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2. HOW DO I SUBSCRIBE TO MARKET FARMING?
Self-subscribe throuth the Web by accessing the website at
http://franklin.oit.unc.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=market-farming.
Subscribing & unsubscribing to market-farming
using email instead of the Web interface:
In case you do not have Web access or for any reason need to use the email
interface, here are some key commands;
In all cases, the default server address is: lyris@franklin.oit.unc.edu
This is the email address to send commands to change the status of your
account. Other addresses are shown where appropriate. Note that commands
may be placed in either the subject line or in the body of the message.
For
some actions you have several choices of commands and you may use the one
that suits your preferred mode.
SUBSCRIBING:
subscribe market-farming
subscribe market-farming your_name
join market-farming
join market-farming your_name
alternate address: join-market-farming@franklin.oit.unc.edu
UNSUBSCRIBING:
unsubscribe market-farming
leave market-farming
alternate address: leave-market-farming@franklin.oit.unc.edu
SETTING MEMBERSHIP TO DIGEST MODE:
set market-farming digest
SETTING MEMBERSHIP TO INDEX MODE:
set market-farming index
SETTING MEMBERSHIP TO DISCUSSION MODE:
set market-farming mail
TEMPORARILY SUSPENDING MAIL FROM THE LIST: set market-farming nomail
RESUMING MAIL FROM THE LIST:
set market-farming mail
set market-farming digest
set market-farming index
You may subscribe as an e-mail list, a digest of that list or just gain
access to the usegroup which gives you access to posts from the web but
doesn't deliver them to your mailbox. If you lack web access, or the
e-mail
commands don't seem to work, e-mail me at fullcircle@jps.net with your
full
name and email address, and I'll sign you up.
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3. HOW DO I UNSUBSCRIBE TO MARKET FARMING?
At the end of every post to this list there is text at the bottom of the
page with automated unsubscription info and procedure. Here is a sample
from a typical post:
You are currently subscribed to market-farming as: <your email address>
To unsubscribe send a blank email to
leave-market-farming-<user number>@franklin.oit.unc.edu
OR Self-unsubscribe by accessing the website at
http://franklin.oit.unc.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=market-farming.
If you lack web access, or the instructions don't work for you, e-mail me
at fullcircle@jps.net with your full name and email address, and I'll
unsubscribe you.
PLEASE DO NOT SEND UNSUBSCRIBE MESSAGES TO THE ENTIRE LIST.
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4. WHAT IS APPROPRIATE TO POST TO MARKET FARMING?
This is the hardest part of any FAQ. We want to respect the time and
computer memory of all subscribers so everyone feels they can participate.
For the few folks who will inevitably violate these guidelines, I'll
e-mail
you personally. If you continue to make the list unproductive for the
majority, you will be unsubscribed.
Here are some Netiquette suggestions to help make this discussion group
more productive for all.
A. Post messages about small acreage farming issues, especially those of
production. There are other lists, newsgroups and webforums for deeper
philosophical discussions on world trade, capitalism, socialism,
sustainable vs. organic agriculture and the like. Refer to the list below
for suggestions. If you feel compelled to let us know about these issues,
kindly post a simple one line reference with the appropriate URL, so those
who are interested can read for themselves, and those who aren't don't
have
megabytes of information to delete from their mailbox. Please send
personal
notes to individuals, not the list. Your Aunt Sally's flowered hat may
make
a great pullet nest box, but only your closest friends really care.
Repeated violation of this guideline will get you unsubscribed.
B. Please use an appropriate, clear subject heading. A lot of subscribers
sort messages by thread, and it's frustrating to them to read posts that
have nothing to do with the topic listed. It will also help you do an
appropriate archive search if you ever need to. IMPORTANT NOTE: All posts
to market-farming are permanently archived. This allows folks to search
for specific information in a thread. It also means your name is archived
with your post. If this is a problem for you, it's best you not use this
list.
C. If you're giving someone a pat on the back or just say hi, please send
it as private email and copy the list only on replies of general interest.
This helps keep membership from being overwhelmed by the volume of mail.
D. Please use snips to cut the original post to only pertinent sections,
most of us remember what we wrote so it's unnecessary to quote it all
back.
This is especially true if you take the digest. All of us have already
seen
the day's posts, if you simply reply to a digest without snipping, you
will
repost the entire day's traffic to the list or the individual. It only
takes a couple of people doing this to overload everybody's mailbox. This
is another one of those things that can get you unsubscribed in a hurry.
E. A good signature which includes your name, any organization that you
represent, and where you are located geographically helps place your post
in context. We have subscribers from all regions of North America, and the
world. Some techniques are broadly applicable, some are not.
F. Respect your fellow farmers. Not all of us farm in exactly the same
way,
but we all love the land, respect its resources and our families. We are
more alike than we are different. We have much to learn from each other.
Please read over your post before you hit the send button, especially if
something has gotten your goat. Flaming is rude and won't be tolerated.
G. Save this FAQ for future reference.
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5. DO I HAVE TO SUBSCRIBE TO READ THE POSTS?
You can read the posts using the Web interface as well as the News
interface without being a subscriber to the list.
To read using the Web interface go to:
http://franklin.oit.unc.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=market-farming and
click
on the button that says "Visit market-farming without joining"
To read using the News interface use the following methods:
Method 1 using your news reader:
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Access via Usenet news can be had by adding this news server name to your
list of news servers in your news reader, or make it your default server:
franklin.oit.unc.edu
Connect with the franklin.oit.unc.edu news server and download the list of
available newsgroups and subscribe to market-farming.
Subscribing to the market-farming newsgroup does not make you a subscriber
to the list. You can post to the newsgroup only if you are a list
subscriber;
otherwise you can read the newsgroup.
Method 2 using your Web browser [+ news reader]: -
go to this URL (i.e. type this URL into the dialog box in your web
browser)
news://franklin.oit.unc.edu (news:// is part of a URL just like ftp:// and
http://) and download the list of available newsgroups and subscribe to
market-farming.
or go to this URL:
news://franklin.oit.unc.edu/market-farming for reading (and/or posting if
you're a list subscriber)
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5. HOW DO I POST TO MARKET FARMING?
Send your messages to:
market-farming@franklin.oit.unc.edu
You have to be a list subscriber to post to market-farming using either
the
Email, Web or News interface. You can, however read all posts, including
the archives, as a non-subscriber.
In order to post to Market Farming, you must be subscribed to the list AND
send your message from the email account that you used to subscribe to the
list. In other words, if you have several e-mail accounts or aliases, you
need
to send e-mail from the account you used to subscribed.
IMPORTANT NOTE: All posts to market-farming are permanently archived.
This
allows folks to go back and search for specific information in a thread.
It also means your name is archived with your post. If this is a problem
for you, it's best you not use this list.
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6. WHERE CAN I FIND ARCHIVES OF POSTINGS TO MARKET FARMING?
On the world wide web at:
http://franklin.oit.unc.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=market-farming
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8. WHAT ARE SOME OTHER WEBSITES OR DISCUSSION GROUPS THAT MIGHT BE OF
INTEREST
CSA-L was the genesis of this list. It is set up specifically to discuss
issues related to Community Supported Agriculture. Links to all the web
sites have found related to CSAs can be found at:
http://www.prairienet.org/pcsa/CSA-L.html You can subscribe to CSA-l from
that site.
SANET-MG Sponsored the Sustainable Agriculture Network from the USDA, this
list is international in scope. It is largely populated by academics and
the discussions are frequently philosophical and/or policy oriented.
However, farmers frequently lurk here and research on any given topic is
available for the asking. Archives and subscription information can be
found at http://www.sare.org/san/htdocs/hypermail
Biodynamics NOW! (bdnow), the
international biodynamic farming and gardening discussion list.
Join BD Now! at http://www.igg.com/bdno or send a message to
listproc@envirolink.org
put 'sub bdnow YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS YOUR NAME'
in the body of the message.
BD CSAs are listed here.
Lawrence London's websites and forums at MetaLab
http://metalab.unc.edu/intergarden
http://metalab.unc.edu/permaculture
(Marcie's note - If you can't find it here, or link to it from here, it
just may not exist.) We hope market-farming users would subscribe to some
of the more appropriate lists here, seed-saving and soil-quality
especially
There's a special document with info on accessing all these lists in a
file
at this URL: http://metalab.unc.edu/intergarden/forumdoc.txt
Lists of interest at the MetaLab Lyris server include:
csa
soil-quality
seed-saving
community-foodsystems
herb
market-farming
permaculture
permaculture-calendar
The Sustainable Farming Connection
Developed and maintained by Craig Cramer formerly editor of The New Farm.
This site is a cornucopia of resources and topics. Sustainable techniques
for farms of all sizes and crops.
http://sunsite.unc.edu/farming-connection/
ATTRA - Appropriate Technology Transfer to Rural Areas One of the best
appropriate scale and alternative crop sites on the web. Loaded with
publications and links. This is THE site for posting apprenticeship and
internship opportunities www.ATTRA.org
IF YOU GARDEN FOR PLEASURE, LANDSCAPE, AND EXPERIMENTATION the following
sites may be better suited to your needs
http://metalab.unc.edu/intergarden InterGarden
Rodale Press Gardening http://www.rodalepress.com./gardening.htm
National Gardening Association www.garden.org
IF YOU HOMESTEAD OR FARM PRIMARILY AS A LIFESTYLE CHOICE AND GROW FOOD
primarily to feed your own family, the following site may be better suited
to your needs
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8. OTHER RESOURCES
GROWING FOR MARKET is a monthly newsletter that has articles by and about
market farmers. Good ideas and honest discussion abound. Subscriptions are
$30/year. GFM, Fairplain Publications, P.O. Box 3747, Lawrence, KS 66046;
Tel 800-307-8949/fax: 913.841.2559. growing4market@earthlink.net
THE COMMUNITY FARM A Voice for Community Supported Agriculture Edited and
produced by Jim Sluyter and Jo Meller. Quarterly publication comes out in
February, May, August and November. $20 US TCM 3480 Potter Rd. Bear Lake,
MI 49614 (616) 889-3216 fsfarm@mufn.org
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9. WHERE CAN THE MARKET FARMING MAILING LIST FAQ BE FOUND?
The FAQ will be sent to you automatically to indicate
that you have subscribed successfully
OR you may read it (market-farming.faq) at:
http://metalab.unc.edu/intergarden/documents/market-farming.faq
OR have it sent to you by email by sending email to:
lyris@franklin.oit.unc.edu
with the message text or subject line containing:
get market-farming market-farming-list.faq
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