Re: Comments From Demeter

From: Hugh Lovel (uai@alltel.net)
Date: Thu Jan 20 2000 - 13:02:50 EST


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>Can we feel confident in recommending use of a cosmic pipe which relies on
>the sub-nature forces of electro-magnetism to disseminate preps? Do we
>know what effect this device has on the electro-magnetic fields within the
>farm? Do we know what effect it has on the person using it?

What is a sub-nature force? Why is EM in this category?

Consider how EM is integrated into the natural world. Pizoelectricity is
part of how bones orient and grow themselves in response to stress.
Callahan's interesting work on insect senses demonstrated their amazing
reception of coherent IR radiation. Not to mention his work on
paramagnetism and alignment with earth ley lines. What is the operating
principle of homeopathy -- could propagation of these forces be considered
sub-nature? Yet the principle of homeopathy seems closely connected to the
principle of the ag preps. So what is "sub-nature" and who made that
decision?

I welcome BDA to respond and I dont think the request for dialog is mean
spirited.

====================
David Robison
Stellar Processes
1033 SW Yamhill Suite 405
Portland, OR 97205

Dear Dave,

I believe there is prejudice involved here.

Dowsing, radionics and such things as field broadcasting appear to have
been inveighed against by Dr. Herbert Koepf in his courses at Emerson
College in England. This has established more or less of a tradition of
rejection amongst the "old guard" in English speaking biodynamic circles.
That's unfortunate, but so it goes. On the other hand, in the German
literature there are other more openminded currents. For example, I would
highly recommend that people read Dr. Georg Unger on these topics:
sub-nature, electricity, magnetism and the third force. Unger is one of the
world's leading mathematicians, and happens to also be active in Swiss
anthroposophical circles. He is known throughout the world's
anthroposophical societies for his lectures on projective geometry. See if
you can get ahold of his pamphlet "On Nuclear Energy and the Occult Atom."
It has been published in English and should be available through the
anthroposophical lending library in New York. My copy has mysteriously
disappeared, but it's brief and very clear. Perhaps James Thompson will
give you some other pointers.

I believe a careful study of the subject, and Unger is a good start, would
make it clear that prejudices such as Anne has gotten into here need to be
set aside so we can move forward. I'm always running into them with Koepf's
students, such as Kerry Sullivan and Walter Goldstein. Kerry and Walter are
fine folks. Walter has founded the Michael Fields Institute and done a good
job of it. My hat is way, way off to him. Some of his students at Michael
Fields read this list. But every so often it comes up that he is passing on
this prejudice, and it is simply unfortunate. It is one of the wounds
biodynamics has to recover from. Orthodoxy will be the death of biodynamics
if we don't win free from it.

Here's my comment from an earlier post:

>Incidentally, to say my field broadcasters are electro-magnetic in nature
>or are employing the forces of subnature in the fallen ethers of
>electricity and magnetism is slanderous. It shows virtual complete
>ignorance of what these devices are and do. Like the BD preps themselves
>the broadcaster establishes its fractal resonance patterns directly in the
>ethers. This takes the energies away from the fallen ethers and puts it
>back into the ethers. So the broadcaster DOES have effects on
>electro-magnetic fields. Nuclear fields too. Don't forget what Steiner
>called the "third force." Several years ago Heather Fox did a filming at
>my place for the Discovery Channel (it never was produced) and her camera
>and sound crew tried to film a segment up close to the broadcaster. After
>replacing batteries 5 or 6 times in 3 minutes they fled while they still
>had batteries left. We finished our filming a goodly >distance away.

Best,
Hugh

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