Re: Omni Carni Debate - Partial Repost

Fiona Benson (fiona@blue-mountain.net)
Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:18:35 +0200

Mike wrote:

: You mentioned "this was back when the protein level was raised by adding
: protein from the rendering plant". Where are these downer cows going now
: if not back into animal feed? Anybody know?

In the US the legislation governing meat and meat products into animal feed
covers ONLY Cattle, Sheep and Goats. I was under the opinion they were
completely banned in Europe - but this is not the case as I still see them
incorporated in many rations. With regard to your pets - ask your local
vet if he has seen an increase in malignent growths and other conditions
that could be associated with these types of products.
:
: What about these "protein tubs" that are sold as cattle feed supplement?
: Where is that protein from?

Have a look at the ingredient list on those tubs. If it includes: Meat and
Bone Meal, Poultry Meal, Fish Meal, Carcasss Meal, Blood Meal, (specific)
or Animal Protein Products (collective term) - then the protein is coming
from the rendering plant.

If the ingredient list includes: Soymeal, Sunflower Meal etc (specific) or
Plant Protein Products (collective term) - then the protein will be coming
from plant origen.

Y2K and GE food is squat compared to this
: little problem from industrialized agriculture.

You are right with that statement. The continual use of animal protein
products (APPs) in animal feed has to be the most important aspect to get
out of the food chain. Over the past few years I have studied the sources
of these ingredients and last
year wrote an article on the subject. I also urged farmers themselves to
take the responsibility not to use these products.

Remember also that dairy cows, beef cattle, pigs, sheep go down for a number
of reasons - accident, virus, bacterial infection, disease or metabolic
disorders. It is unlikely that the farmer and vet will have destroyed the
animal or let it die without having first treated it with antibiotics etc.
These animals were production livestock and of value to the farmer. Other a
nimals that go to the rendering plant will be deer carcasses from the side
of the road, dead horses and other casualty livestock. Dogs complete with
flea collars is another example. If the rendering plant cannot collect the
animals immediately the animals will lie out in the sun waiting several days
for collection as many farmers are forbidden by law to bury their livestock
on their farm.

In my opinion, not only are these products poor ingredients from a
nutritional point of view for most livestock - we should not be using them
at all as we have no idea what problems we are building for the future.

Regards
Fiona Benson

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