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>sanet-mg-digest Thursday, December 23 1999 Volume 01 : Number 1505
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>In this issue:
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> Phytoremediation
> [Fwd: Phytoremediation]
> Re: query on "Meta" for slug and snail control
> Farm Subsidies Are Unfair
> Government control of money supply?
> Monsanto/BGH docket
> Doctors Sue Glickman and Shalala
> Fw: The Night before Compost
> Re: Government control of money supply?
> Y2k, go away!
> Radura Logo
> Re: Farm Subsidies Are Unfair
>
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>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:51:24 -0500
>From: David Drexler <david@paulowniatrees.com>
>Subject: Phytoremediation
>
>Does anyone have knowledge or experience with phytorediation?
>
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>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:57:03 -0500
>From: David Drexler <david@paulowniatrees.com>
>Subject: [Fwd: Phytoremediation]
>
>David Drexler wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have knowledge or experience with phytorediation?
>
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>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 16:59:50 +0100
>From: wytze <geno@zap.a2000.nl>
>Subject: Re: query on "Meta" for slug and snail control
>
>I checked with the Dutch Organic Certifying Inst. Apparently it is
allowed, indeed for
>snailcontrol. However, the permission expires at 31-3-2002 and is anyway not
>unconditional. I will check further in the EU ordinance 91-2092 what the
exact terms
>of use are.
>wytze
>
>E. Ann Clark wrote:
>
>> Folks: I am passing on this query for a colleague. He has a 1997
brochure from a
>> Swiss company "Lonza" which markets a product called META (which is
metaldehyde;
>> formula C8H16O4), for use in a wide range of crops. They state in the
pamphlet:
>>
>> ""Due to the fact that META is not harming beneficial organisms like
earthworms
>> and carabid beetles, it is ideal for use in Integrated Pest Management
production
>> systems. It is officially approved by the EU to be fit for use in organic
>> farming."
>>
>> Can one of our European friends pls check and confirm for me if this is
true? Is
>> META approved for use in organic farming in Europe? Thanks in advance.
Ann
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>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 03:56:50 -0500
>From: Dave Miller <recycler@eclipse.net>
>Subject: Farm Subsidies Are Unfair
>
>Sane or Not?
>
> I am pleased to offer the following propositions for next year's
>National Nutrition Summit designed to reduce the national incidence of
>obesity and generally improve our nation's health:
>
>* Congress should eliminate preferential subsidies for fatty animal
>agricultural products.
>
> Because of their overwhelming political clout, producers of meat and
>dairy products and the associated feedcrops are granted a
>disproportionate
>share of American agricultural subsidies. Producers of wholesome
>vegetables, fruits, and grains and legumes raised for human consumption
>deserve a more level playing field in competing for the American food
>dollar.
>
>* USDA should stop dumping its meat and dairy surpluses on the School
>Lunch
>Program. USDA has long been using the National School Lunch Program as a
>dumping
>ground for surplus commodities purchased to prop up the meat and dairy
>industries. Consequently, American children acquire lifelong dietary
>habits
>in schools where lunch and breakfast fare is loaded with fat,
>cholesterol,
>and sodium.
>
>* US and state governments should provide healthful nutrition education
>in
>schools. In addition to accepting the meat and dairy surpluses, many
>schools
>welcome national fat food franchises and junk food machines. Nutrition
>education materials pushing the discredited "basic four food groups" are
>provided with the compliments of the meat and dairy industries. Between
>the
>USDA, the fat food franchises, and the meat and dairy industries, our
>kids
>never have a chance to develop healthy eating habits.
>
>
>* HHS should work with public interest and trade groups in promoting
>healthful eating. The National Cancer Institute set a brilliant example
>in encouraging formation of the Produce for Better Health Foundation to
>interest groups to improve school lunch menus.
>
>* Dietary Guidelines should recommend explicitly a low-fat, low-calorie
>plant-based diet. The 1995 Dietary Guidelines for Americans pays lip
>service to "choosing a diet with plenty of grain products, vegetables
>and fruits" and to "choosing a diet low in fat, saturated fat, and
>cholesterol." Yet, it fails to recommend the only diet that complies
>fully with these recommendations -- the plant-based vegan diet.
>
>FARM can be reached through the following information:
>FARM - 1-888-ASK FARM, www.farmusa.org
> "Saving Our Planet, One Bite At a Time"
>
>Recycler Dave
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>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 00:07:30 -0500
>From: Dave Miller <recycler@eclipse.net>
>Subject: Government control of money supply?
>
>Howdy all,
>
>We have seen 5 new "state" quarters this year and we will continue do to
>so for 9 more years ie. 50 states. Assuming we don't annex PR in this
>decade.
>
>My thought is this, many people will hoard/stash away these coins as
>commeratives (myself included) but this takes money out of circulation.
>
>Was this a plot to remove money from circulation? To change the debt
>load? Or as a temporary measure or to divert us away from Y2K thoughts?
>
>I am probably way off base here but your thoughts are
>welcomed.
>- --
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>Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 23:46:15 -0500
>From: Dave Miller <recycler@eclipse.net>
>Subject: Monsanto/BGH docket
>
>Hello FDA,
>
>As a tax paying, voting American citizen - I would like to register my
>support for the passage of the Docket 99P-4613 - which demands the
>recall of Monsanto's rbGH.
>
>This hormone has been wisely banned in Canada and other countries - and
>we need to stop bowing here in the USA to major corporations who would
>put massive profit ahead of human safety.
>
>Let's get consumer safety back to being a PRIORITY.
>
>I encourage everyone to realize the potential dangers to humans and
>cows.
>
>Thank You,
>
>Dave Miller
>
>Happy Solstice, Prosperous New Century!
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>Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 23:42:30 -0500
>From: Dave Miller <recycler@eclipse.net>
>Subject: Doctors Sue Glickman and Shalala
>
>Okay, so I am more than a week late:
>
>On Wednesday, December 15, 1999, the Physicians Committee for
>Responsible Medicine (PCRM), a national health advocacy group, filed a
>federal lawsuit against the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and
>the Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS).
>
>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>December 15, 1999
>
>Doctors Sue Glickman and Shalala
>Financial Conflicts of Interest,
>Racial Bias on Diet Panel
>
>Washington, D.C.—The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine
>(PCRM), a national health advocacy group, filed a federal lawsuit today
>against the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the Department of
>Health and Human Services (DHHS).
>
>PCRM is charging the government with violating the law that bans undue
>influence in federal advisory committees. The D.C.-based doctor's group
>is concerned about the activities of a powerful 11-member federal
>advisory
>committee, appointed to revise the Dietary Guidelines for Americans.
>
>Along with the Food Guide Pyramid, these Guidelines provide nutritional
>advice for all Americans and form the basis of all federal food
>programs,
>including the National School Lunch Program which feeds 26 million
>children
>a day.
>
>"We have uncovered evidence that at least six of these committee members
>have had or currently have significant ties to the meat, dairy, or egg
>industries," says Mindy Kursban, PCRM staff counsel. "And we have good
>reason to believe the government has intentionally withheld documents
>revealing conflicts of interest."
>
>
>{THIS IS REALLY SAD}
>
>
>"It doesn't take a physician to diagnose the problem with this
>committee," says PCRM president Neal D. Barnard, M.D. "Clearly, its
>work—and the public's health—has been compromised. As health
>professionals concerned with the staggering levels of illness in this
>country, these industry ties are particularly hard to swallow."
>
>PCRM is also suing the USDA and the DHHS for promoting dietary
>guidelines that undermine minority health. In a national campaign
>launched last spring, PCRM is asking the government to acknowledge that
>minorities suffer from higher rates of prostate cancer, diabetes, and
>other chronic diseases than Caucasians and to promote diets low enough
>in fat and rich enough in plant products to reduce their risk of these
>conditions.
>
>
>Additionally, PCRM is asking the government to make dairy strictly
>optional, acknowledging that the majority of African-, Hispanic-,
>Asian-, and Native-Americans are lactose-intolerant, and that they may
>wish to choose other sources of calcium.
>
>
>PCRM's proposals for changing the Guidelines have been endorsed by the
>Congressional Black Caucus Health Braintrust; the NAACP; former U.S.
>Surgeon General M. Joycelyn Elders, M.D.; Martin L. King, III;
>Congressman Jesse Jackson, Jr.; Muhammad Ali; and many other community
>leaders and minority health advocates.
>
>
>For interviews with PCRM medical and legal experts, as well as video
>footage of the news conference, please contact Simon Chaitowitz at
>202-686-2210, ext. 309. SimonChai@aol.com
>
>
>The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine is a Washington,
>D.C.-based nonprofit organization founded in 1985 and focused on
>preventive medicine, particularly good nutrition, and higher standards
>in research.
>
>To learn more, please visit:
>http://www.pcrm.org/news/lawsuit.html
>
>
>
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>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:27:13 -0500
>From: "Frank Teuton" <fteuton@total.net>
>Subject: Fw: The Night before Compost
>
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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>Merry Christmas to all, and a Year 2000---may yer Yak to Kildeer ratio =
>stay in whack, (keep that Y2K out of whack attack in the sack!)
>
>This is recycled, I wrote it before, if you already read it, well read =
>it once more!
>
>- -----Original Message-----
>From: Frank Teuton <fteuton@total.net>
>To: OGL@LSV.UKY.EDU <OGL@LSV.UKY.EDU>
>Cc: compost@listproc.wsu.edu <compost@listproc.wsu.edu>
>Date: Friday, December 25, 1998 8:51 AM
>Subject: The Night before Compost
>
>
>'Twas the night before compost
>and all through the pile
>all the creatures were stirring
>all the aerobic while.
>=20
>Their feedstocks were layered=20
>into the pile with care
>=20
>In hopes that bacteria soon would grow there.
>=20
>The moisture was added, till the good stuff was glistening,
>to the wrung out sponge dampness (is everyone listening?)
>=20
>The brown stuff was measured, the green stuff was too
>=20
>The good C/N ratio for a fine microbe stew
>=20
>The leaves were piled on, all shredded and humid
>While their decomposition anticipatedly loomed
>=20
>On Acer, On Quercus, On Salix, On Elmus!
>Fraxinus and Fagus,On Prunus and Pinus!
>=20
>So top off your bins, to the top of their walls
>=20
>And rot away, rot away, to fine humus all!!!
>=20
>Merry Christmas and Good Composting,
>=20
>Frank Teuton and family
>
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><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Merry Christmas to all, and a Year =
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original =
>Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20
></B>Frank Teuton <<A=20
>href=3D"mailto:fteuton@total.net">fteuton@total.net</A>><BR><B>To: =
></B><A=20
>href=3D"mailto:OGL@LSV.UKY.EDU">OGL@LSV.UKY.EDU</A> <<A=20
>href=3D"mailto:OGL@LSV.UKY.EDU">OGL@LSV.UKY.EDU</A>><BR><B>Cc: </B><A =
>
>href=3D"mailto:compost@listproc.wsu.edu">compost@listproc.wsu.edu</A> =
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>href=3D"mailto:compost@listproc.wsu.edu">compost@listproc.wsu.edu</A>>=
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><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Their feedstocks were layered =
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><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>to the wrung out sponge dampness (is =
>everyone=20
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><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>The good C/N ratio for a fine =
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>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 08:29:49 -0800
>From: Diane Cooner <amani@wclynx.com>
>Subject: Re: Government control of money supply?
>
>Greetings to Sanetters!
>I've only seen one of these coins myself, so don't know if the circulation
>question applies - at least not in my neighborhood!
>I think the gov't has everyone distracted with airport security just now, and
>thoughts of blaming "terrorists" for our woes instead of our own programmings
>shortsightedness.
>diane in too sunny (75 degree) northern california
>
>Dave Miller wrote:
>
>> Howdy all,
>>
>> We have seen 5 new "state" quarters this year and we will continue do to
>> so for 9 more years ie. 50 states. Assuming we don't annex PR in this
>> decade.
>>
>> My thought is this, many people will hoard/stash away these coins as
>> commeratives (myself included) but this takes money out of circulation.
>>
>> Was this a plot to remove money from circulation? To change the debt
>> load? Or as a temporary measure or to divert us away from Y2K thoughts?
>>
>> I am probably way off base here but your thoughts are
>> welcomed.
>> --
>> Happy Solstice, Prosperous New 2000!
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>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:38:27 -0500
>From: Mark <markl@buylocalfood.com>
>Subject: Y2k, go away!
>
>Whew what a headful those last two long y2k posts were...I certainly
>appreciate Misha's perspective-reminder; after all, how can the internet be
>a truly global network when 2/3 of the people on earth do not have a
>telephone?! Our technology is vastly overrated and it's impact on real
>people is overstated. All the time, and especially with the y2k stuff. I
>can't stand computers anymore. I have to use one for work, and I obviously
>use email, but my laptop at home is buried in the back of the closet.
>Early on in my computer infatuation phase I quickly learned that the
>computer is not your friend, and that it sucks more time out of you than it
>ever saves you, personally or professionally. I still stand by that
>statement. When the handle on my shovel breaks, I can make a new one and
>get back to work. When my computer breaks, I am on hold with tech support
>for hours, or it is in the shop for weeks, or I need to throw it away and
>buy a new one! Which is the better tool?
>
>There are all kinds of people willing to exploit our fears -- techno geeks
>looking to make a big buck (or who are genuinely afraid that their beloved
>technology will collapse); religious megalomaniacs looking for an ego
>feeding; and simple hucksters cashing in on the latest trend (you know the
>type; they used to sell counterfeit Rubik's Cubes on the streets of NYC;
>now they are selling home security systems and water filters. They know how
>to follow the $$!)
>
>But the saddest part of this Y2K thing to me was the well-intentioned
>nouveau (or old time) hippies trying to turn this millenial tension into a
>"community building experience." I don't know which depresses me more --
>their naivete or the understanding that humans are singularly selfish and
>that there are more people willing to exploit a disaster than help other
>during one. I have good neighbors and I know if we need anything during
>the next year we will help each other. But its a wide world out there and
>it is full of people too afraid, apathetic, angry, vengeful, and psychotic
>to create the "community response" to Y2K that these activists are working
>toward. A moment of clarity for me was a report from the NE ice storm a
>few years ago. A fellow in Maine was stating that he was getting by OK
>because he traded his shotgun to his father for some cordwood to keep his
>home warm. I guess the point of the story was supposed to be to illustrate
>how these backwoods folk help each other out, but dammit, why didn't his
>father just GIVE him some cordwood? Are we Yankees so tight that we won't
>even help out our own families in a crisis? Yikes...
>
>These isolated community builders can hold all the meetings and pot lucks
>they want. I can't imagine any of them going into the ghetto to help the
>people whose social security, disability and welfare checks aren't coming
>anymore -- they are the most likely victims of Y2k anyway.
>
>OK so enough ranting. Go ahead and flame away. I'm not sure how much of
>this I believe after reading it over anyway!
>
>Happy Holidays!
>
>Mark
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>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:47:33 -0600
>From: mmiller@pcsia.com
>Subject: Radura Logo
>
>Check out the radura logo at http://ens.lycos.com/ens/pics8/radura.jpg
>that is being used to identify radiation treated meats. (This .jpg is from
>an editorial which is at http://ens.lycos.com/ens/dec99/1999L-12-22g.html.
> Warning the editorial gets somewhat flaky towards the end. But anyway...)
>
>This radiation treated meat logo is a Pretty Slick Way to try and make
>people think their products are related to the enviornement movement. No
>more yellow/orange and black with three side and a center dot from the bad
>old days. Radiation now is our friend. Mr. Gamma Ray will keep you from
>being sick. Can you say Glow in the Dark?
>
>For those of you without web access, the radura is a green circle,
>segemented at the top and has the two "leaves" at the bottom of the logo
>like on the EPA symbol and a green dot in the center so the inside looks
>like a stylized flower. It reminds me of the early Earth Day logo's if I
>can remember that far back.
>
>I propose a contest. Who can do the best parody of the radura symbol?
>Maybe somebody with a web server could host the entries for this contest?
>I have my idea being made by a friend with a Mac that has good graphics.
>What better way to protest than with parody. All winners and participants
>will be rewarded with a tickled funny bone. Mike Miller
>
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>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:33:22 -0500
>From: "Greg & Lei Gunthorp" <hey4hogs@kuntrynet.com>
>Subject: Re: Farm Subsidies Are Unfair
>
>Not sane. A sustainable agriculture is going to have to include livestock.
>What would be sane is a program that does not encourage the overproduction
>of grain and instead would produce the sane production of animals in
>grass/legume based systems. Humans were intended to eat meat. Humans were
>not intended to eat animals that are raised on top of their own fermenting
>manure in damp sunless buildings, pumped full of antibiotics, fed animal
>by-products, fed the fat from McDonalds fryers etc.
>
>Best wishes,
>Greg Gunthorp
>Free range pig, chicken, and rabbit producer
>- -----Original Message-----
>From: Dave Miller <recycler@eclipse.net>
>To: sanet <sanet-mg@ces.ncsu.edu>
>Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 11:01 AM
>Subject: Farm Subsidies Are Unfair
>
>
>>Sane or Not?
>>
>> I am pleased to offer the following propositions for next year's
>>National Nutrition Summit designed to reduce the national incidence of
>>obesity and generally improve our nation's health:
>>
>>* Congress should eliminate preferential subsidies for fatty animal
>>agricultural products.
>>
>> Because of their overwhelming political clout, producers of meat and
>>dairy products and the associated feedcrops are granted a
>>disproportionate
>>share of American agricultural subsidies. Producers of wholesome
>>vegetables, fruits, and grains and legumes raised for human consumption
>>deserve a more level playing field in competing for the American food
>>dollar.
>>
>>* USDA should stop dumping its meat and dairy surpluses on the School
>>Lunch
>>Program. USDA has long been using the National School Lunch Program as a
>>dumping
>>ground for surplus commodities purchased to prop up the meat and dairy
>>industries. Consequently, American children acquire lifelong dietary
>>habits
>>in schools where lunch and breakfast fare is loaded with fat,
>>cholesterol,
>>and sodium.
>>
>>* US and state governments should provide healthful nutrition education
>>in
>>schools. In addition to accepting the meat and dairy surpluses, many
>>schools
>>welcome national fat food franchises and junk food machines. Nutrition
>>education materials pushing the discredited "basic four food groups" are
>>provided with the compliments of the meat and dairy industries. Between
>>the
>>USDA, the fat food franchises, and the meat and dairy industries, our
>>kids
>>never have a chance to develop healthy eating habits.
>>
>>
>>* HHS should work with public interest and trade groups in promoting
>>healthful eating. The National Cancer Institute set a brilliant example
>>in encouraging formation of the Produce for Better Health Foundation to
>>interest groups to improve school lunch menus.
>>
>>* Dietary Guidelines should recommend explicitly a low-fat, low-calorie
>>plant-based diet. The 1995 Dietary Guidelines for Americans pays lip
>>service to "choosing a diet with plenty of grain products, vegetables
>>and fruits" and to "choosing a diet low in fat, saturated fat, and
>>cholesterol." Yet, it fails to recommend the only diet that complies
>>fully with these recommendations -- the plant-based vegan diet.
>>
>>FARM can be reached through the following information:
>>FARM - 1-888-ASK FARM, www.farmusa.org
>> "Saving Our Planet, One Bite At a Time"
>>
>>Recycler Dave
>>
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