wytze wrote:
> Your Viagra-corn example is right on. This actually is the case with Zeneca's
> GE tomato that's being grown in California. This tomato is grown completely
> separated from non GE tomatos. Why? A Zenecarepresentative explained: the GE
> tomato would loose it's GE when it crosses with non GE tomatos. (Maybe an idea
> for California based activist: put some non-GE tomatoseeds in the GE tomato
> fields)
> Wytze de Lange
>
> Bill Liebhardt wrote:
>
> > When we buy any product we are not buying the product but the perceived
> > benefit. Think about anything you buy or would like to buy and it is the
> > benefits you really are thinking about and thats the reason you make the
> > purchase. Now ask the question-why doesn't the bio tech industry want
> > labeling? I would suggest that the reason is that most of the products
> > they have brought on line have no perceived benefits and may actually have
> > negative factors associated with them to the ultimate consumer. So when
> > that is the case they fight labeling because they do not want an informed
> > public being able to make that choice. Let's look at bovine growth hormone
> > sold by Monsanto. They did everything possible with FDA help to keep
> > people in the dark(The mushroom complex) They fed us a lot of horse manure
> > and kept us in the dark as much as possible. There is absolutely no
> > benefit to drinking milk with the artificial bovine growth hormone. In
> > fact there are reasons why you would not want to drink it with respect to
> > social and environmental issues. From a health standpoint there are
> > potential risks. Harvard based studies has shown that levels of IGF-1
> > influences the risk of getting breast and prostrate cancer. Levels of
> > IGF-1 in normal milk are 1-9 nanograms/ml and with rbgh is 1-13. Women
> > with high levels of IGF-1 are 7X more likely to get breast cancer than
> > women with low levels and in men it is 4X more prostrate cancer. So you
> > can see why Monsanto does not want an informed public on this issue.
> >
> > When bio tech products benefit the consumer it will be easy to separate the
> > products, foods or commodities. For example suppose that some food could
> > eliminate Alzheimer and could do it at a very reasonable price. I do not
> > think we would hear that it is too expensive to segregate.
> >
> > Suppose for example that Pioneer was able to genetically engineer corn that
> > had the same effect as Viagra on men. Suppose also that there were no
> > other problems, no side effects and no environmental problems. Suppose
> > also that 25 g of corn flakes provided the effect and it cost only $2.00.
> > Do you think Pioneer would say it is too expensive to separate? The obvious
> > answer is a big NO. And why would that be the case? Because it would be
> > in their interest to segregate and it would be beneficial and profitable to
> > them. I know this maybe an outrageous example but it gets the point(no
> > pun intended) across.
> >
> > Sleep on that one.
> >
> > Bill Liebhardt
> >
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