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> Lawrence F. London, Jr. Venaura Farm
> http://metalab.unc.edu/intergarden
> /permaculture /intergarden/orgfarm /ecolandtech
> lflondon@mindspring.com london@metalab.unc.edu
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> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ted Rogers wrote:
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> > I'm sorry Lawrence, this use of the word natural in association with or
> > as a descriptor of agriculture drives me up a wall. I have done it
myself
> > in the past, but really, think about it. We invented agriculture 10,000
> > years ago and slowly began the evolution of culture built upon it.
There
> > is absolutely nothing natural about agriculture. It is an elegant
synthetic
> > construct.
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> Gophers dig burrows, worms do same, natural gardeners dig raised beds,
> bees build comb, wasps build nests. All of this is natural, all of this is
> structured. Structured does not equal synthetic in this context.
I think I see what u mean by natural Lawrence. I feel natural and organic
are one in the same to me or that is the way it
use to be before the USDA stole the word organic. . I agree structured is
not natural or part of this argument but a way to through folks off with
words IMHO if one only uses what can be found in nature to grow and no
"I repeat no synthetics" then ur organic and/or natural. now I know this is
not 300 pages long but I feel Lawrence put his finger on it and most folks
understand what he is saying.
IMHO this is what growing organic and/or natural means.
using what is found naturally in nature.
this does not drive me up a wall its so simple. sometime the simple things
are the most wise. I am a simple man yet understand what London means by
natural.
I seem to be able to meet all the organic organizations rules and State
rules just by following that rule.
only use what is naturally found in nature. Da
the USDA has been over a decade trying to define organic . hope this helps
1 rule 1 line .
I know there are poisons in nature and some natural things may be harmful
and I don't use them I don't have to
use everything in nature I have a choice but what in puts I do use must be
found in nature. natural -- non synthetics . that's what I mean by
natural and I guess that's what I mean by organic. ... the food does not
eat any synthetics . I am talking about feeding the food and animals. I
just don't feed the food synthetics only what is found in nature. animals
same feed only what is found in nature. because the USDA is thinking about
making synthetics part of the word organic then what do you call a grower
that only feeds his plants and animals what can be found in nature? that is
the question? you got synthetics and you got natural . so I know where
your coming from Lawrence.
U know what drives me up a wall. the USDA calling GMO's non GMO's and non
organic the call organic and natural. if it grown or processed with
synthetics it is non organic or natural and if it has any GMO's in it .It
can not me called NON GMO . it just depends on what your definition of is
is.
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