Re: Monarch Meeting/Honeybee Risk?

Sal (sals@rain.org)
Sat, 13 Nov 1999 11:42:12 -0800

.I guess it will not kill these Beneficials like Orius as it only kills
Monarch type insects from what I understand. Still a few organic farmers
used to plant a little corn just to keep beneficials around now that may not
be a good idea. the pollen does not kill them but they spread the GMOs to
non GMO plants. so much to learn about these new GMO plants. what will it
kill, how does it spread,what is the effect in the end product and on and on
so many questions? Im sure the USDA has all the answers after all they
released it and are releasing more and more of these GMO's. it is so sad
because I know where I live we are not big corn growers but I see little
patches here and there I think just for the pollen. to bad the pollen the
seed the whole plant have the DNA . so much more heavy than just a spray
used when needed. The plant becomes the insecticide. the whole plant and
every part of it. and it is living and reproducing and mutating and
crossing with wild plants and non GMO plants... like the killer bee but man
made.
----- Original Message -----
From: Sal <sals@rain.org>
To: <mmiller@pcsia.com>; <sanet-mg@ces.ncsu.edu>; Mark Ritchie
<mritchie@iatp.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: Monarch Meeting/Honeybee Risk?

> I know two thing most all Beneficials need to live are pollen and nectar.
> have any test be done with GMO corn and beneficial predators like Orius
> insidious the Minute Pirate Bug ? will the pollen kill them and can they
> spread it?
.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark Ritchie <mritchie@iatp.org>
> To: <mmiller@pcsia.com>; <sanet-mg@ces.ncsu.edu>
> Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 5:03 PM
> Subject: Re: Monarch Meeting/Honeybee Risk?
>
>
> > on the honeybees canola, try
> >
> >
> > Marla S. Spivak
> > Assistant Professor
> > Apiculture/Social Insects
> >
> > Address: 219 Hodson Hall, 1980 Folwell Ave
> > University of Minnesota
> > St. Paul, MN 55108
> > phone: (612) 624-4798
> > fax: (612) 625-5299
> > E-mail: spiva001@maroon.tc.umn.edu
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 03:31 AM 11/12/99 -0600, Mark Ritchie wrote:
> > >I have heard reports of problems around the GE canola in Canada. Anyone
> > >know more about this?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >At 11:14 PM 11/11/99 -0600, mmiller@pcsia.com wrote:
> > >>Thank you very much for posting this information. It clearly
> illustrates
> > >>that more work is needed to determine the effects of BT corn on
> non-target
> > >>species.
> > >>
> > >>Has any work been done to determine what effect BT toxin containing
corn
> > >>pollen has on honey bee and other pollinator populations? I see a lot
> of
> > >>pollen being collected from my corn plants by various bee/bumblebee
> > >>species. Are there safety concerns about selling honey from a BT
toxin
> > >>corn pollen exposed hive? Does BT toxin containing pollen have
negative
> > >>effects when it is fed to the bee brood? Mike Miller
> > >>
> > >>>Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:23:59 -0800
> > >>>To: <biotech_activists@iatp.org>, sanet-mg@amani.ces.ncsu.edu,
> > >>> <PatrickMadden@compuserve.com>
> > >>>From: Charles Benbrook <benbrook@hillnet.com>
> > >>>Subject: Monarch Meeting
> > >>>
> > >>> Several viewpoints and press stories have now been circulated on the
> > >>>outcome of the November 2, 1999 Chicago meeting on new research on
> Monarchs
> > >>>and Bt corn. We have posted substantive meeting reports by Becky
> Goldburg
> > >>>of EDF, and Lincoln P. Brower and Myron P. Zalucki. For these, go to
> > >>>
> > >>>http://www.biotech-info.net/butterflies_btcorn.html
> > >>>
> > >>>Univ. of Illinois IPM specialists Kevin Steffey and Mike Gray offer
> their
> > >>>views on the Monarch meeting in a new posting on the Univ. of
Illinois
> > >>>extension page, go to --
> > >>>
> > >>>http://spectre.ag.uiuc.edu/cespubs/pest/articles/199924d.html
> > >>>
> > >>> We will continue to add reports and stories on this meeting and
> related
> > >>>developments shedding light on the impact of Bt pollen on non-target
> > >>>beneficials, of which the Monarch is only the most visible example,
> thus
> > >>>far. As research starts to show up in the literature, we will also
> post it
> > >>>or links to it. If anyone has any data on this subject that they
would
> > >>>like posted, please contact me by private email.
> > >>>
> > >>> chuck
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Charles Benbrook CU FQPA site
> > >www.ecologic-ipm.com
> > >>>Benbrook Consulting Services Ag BioTech InfoNet
www.biotech-info.net
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