> why why don't you trust organic grower
I trust organic growers. Not everyone selling food as organic, however,
*is* an organic grower. There are a number of people who cheat. Guess
what? They also lie. Just because someone *says* they're organic
doesn't mean as much as it used to.
Sal, as onerous as certification can be, would you really prefer to
have 117 customers coming out to your farm and checking it in
sufficient detail to decide if you're organic enough? Visitors can be
a very expensive drain on your time, and may well end up costing you
more that writing out a check for the certification agency. We got
around it by limiting visitors to one field day per year.
>maybe every five years or so if nothing on the farm changes .. why make me
>pay all these folks over and over every year if my organicness is the same.
>what does the change in the year have to do with being organic . I was the
>same organic in 98 as 99 so why pay pay pay over and over for nothing.
You know, when I was being inspected for certification I happily paid
the fees to have another set of eyes look at what I was doing. Sure I
was organic, but I definitely wasn't a perfect farmer, and having
someone who had seen a lot of other farms helped me get better at what
I was doing. BTW, at the time I was also *training* inspectors, so I
knew at least as much about the deal as they did. They were *still* a
good use of my money, whether or not I ever shipped a thing more than 5
miles from home.
Just a reminder here. I think you and I are in pretty close agreement
about USDA involvement.
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