> Sal and I seem to have a fundamental difference over use of the word
> "organic" in the marketplace.
>
> He sees it as a *right* to be revoked only in the case of egregious
> who-knows what. I (and many others) see it as a *privilege* to be
> earned.
>
> There are many other marketing words for which you must earn the
> privilege of use --- kosher being the most obvious one. I may meet all
> the requirements of kosher, but I cannot call my products kosher unless
> I'm certified by one of the half dozen or so major groups offering that
> service. Whether I'm small or not does not, and *should* not matter.
>
> The most obvious example of Sal's preferred system --- in which anyone
> can call themselves whatever they feel like --- is "natural."
>
I have been certified for over 15 years and have my land inspected and have
paid a certifier and a inspector and the state of ca. all that time every
year,year after year and I do care what is called organic what u talking
about. and if a Rabbi comes to my house and kills a chicken and tells me it
is kosher I would trust him . You trust the paper more than the Rabbi. hehe
whats up with u telling folks How I feel. I been playing by the books for
so long because I do care where organic is going and I don't like what I
see. you going to force your powertrip on me telling me how I feel and
saying I need some big brother to watch over me because I am "growing
organic"I don't know what non natural and natural is and saying I have to
bow to the USDA who are the real folks that don't know GMO from natural.
your right I do disagree with you I feel if you grow organic you should be
free to tell the world you do by growing organic that is what give me the
right to use that word. I feel I have as much a right to use that word as
anyone because I grow organic. ... .they have turned the word organic into
a political football subject to hard money and soft money and back door
money and under the table money and we want our word back. I have been using
it and folks have grown organic for 6000 years and only now this generation
of vipers want to tax u for being natural . they want to make you pay for
the chemicals you don't use.is this a joke or what. is this backwards or
what. and u bluestem associates what ever that means don't tell folks what
I think I can tell them my self. I don't think this take over of the word
organic and the con job by the USDA is a good idea and I don't like paying
the state of Ca. just because I am organic why should they get extra money
from me just because Im organic. . you are right I do feel if I grow organic
I have the right to tell folks how I grew their food something the USDA does
not feel folks have a right to know. we are paying too many people to much
of our hard earned money. its a rip off.
how many bureaucratic pencil pushing bottom feeders do I have to pay off
just to be able to tell the truth. farming is hard enough with out all
these bosses working their power trips on you . the bureaucratic bullshit
is harder than the farming. they are all on powertrips who needs it. the
biggest pest i have is this bureaucratic bullshit pest . they don't pick
up a hoe or help u pick food or even pull a weed yet they feel they have a
right to your money and the feel they have the right to tell you what they
want from u because u are organic. they do nothing only boss u each with his
own power trip what a night mare . they love to show you how much power they
have. I don't need anymore more bosses . they think they are such bigshots
give them a little power and they powertrip on you. It is that old
slavemaster sprit they still have it. the USDA in all my years has not been
the organic growers friend or the small farmers friend or the black farmers
friend in fact they are the biggest reason you don't see many of these kinds
of farmers. the fox watching the hen house . we don't need no stinking
badges. >
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