Alison Wiediger
Au Naturel Farm
Smiths Grove, KY
> ----------
> From: Greg & Lei Gunthorp[SMTP:hey4hogs@kuntrynet.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 7:34 AM
> To: Anita Graf (Staff); sanet-mg@ces.ncsu.edu
> Cc: Ken@poultry.poulsci.ncsu.edu
> Subject: Re: free range and land grants
>
> You should have seen the reply I got from the brain factory. I know he is
> right that I have little respect for the largely biased work that is done
> there. (I know some good is done but by and large my tax dollars go to
> fund
> a bureaucracy that promotes an industrial, multi-national corporation
> controlled agriculture.) And yes, I've been to DC several times to talk
> with REE and ARS people about the purpose of their mission.
>
> Anybody point me in the direction of places that document the CLA level of
> grass fed chicken eggs? Also, are these people going to admit that store
> boughten, industrialised food is generally of very poor quality with
> regards
> to freshness? Its a symptom of the system and all the research in the
> world
> is not going to change the number of steps and middle man that our non
> direct to consumer food system has created.
>
> Its time for change--both on the farm and at the land grants.
>
> Best wishes,
> Greg Gunthorp
> Family farm activist
>
> PS still making enemies I'm afraid....oh well..I don't have to be PC as I
> don't have to worry about industrialised ag funding pouring in or not
> because of my lack or desire to promote their agenda. When are the
> experts
> going to get around to talking about the economic, environment, and social
> devestation these industrialised food complexes are creating? Andy Lee
> summed up the economics so well of free range versus confinement eggs.
> Hogs
> are the same way. Milk cows are too. Its interesting to see who has what
> to gain with the continued consolidation of agriculture. Do the experts
> not
> care about the very people they are supposed to be serving?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anita Graf (Staff) <agraf@agecon.uga.edu>
> To: sanet-mg@ces.ncsu.edu <sanet-mg@ces.ncsu.edu>
> Date: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 10:19 AM
> Subject: free range and land grants
>
>
> Greg Gunthorp asks:
>
> > What are they smoking in their pipe up their at the land grant in NC?
>
> I was told by a professor here (UGA) in the poultry program that not
> only was there no difference between pasture and caged birds, but
> that the only explanation for people who buy organic is "some people
> with a lot of discretionary income find some (ehem) very
> *interesting* ways to spend it." There is definately a strong
> paradigm (dogma?) here at the landgrants which make it rare to hear a
> differing opinion/answer, no matter what contrary evidence may be out
> there. When seeking guidance from these places, that should be kept
> in mind. Anita
>
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