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> sanet-mg-digest Sunday, September 12 1999 Volume 01 : Number 1290
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> In this issue:
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> Re: sanet-mg-digest V1 #1277
> Re: Fighting the wrong enemy
> Clearinghouse Proposal
> RE: Farmland Preservation
>
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> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 13:32:13 -1000
> From: Russell Yost <rsyost@hawaii.edu>
> Subject: Re: sanet-mg-digest V1 #1277
>
> Hi, Chick,
> I've been away as planned. I'll be in for the duration of this and
> next week -- Sept. 13 to 30 and then away again.
> Can we have a call next Wednesday?
> thanks,
>
> "SC&A, Inc." wrote:
> >
> > Russell,
> >
> > There are still no promising results. I will email you the spread sheets as
> > soon as I can get the results entered. I would like for us to talk on
> > Thursday (9-9) if possible. Please let me know if we (Bill and I) can call
> > you at your office on Thursday.
> >
> > Chick
> >
> > At 08:19 AM 8/31/99 -1000, you wrote:
> > >Hi, Chick,
> > > Unfortunately, I won't be able to be available for our weekly phone
> > >call for Sept. 1 and 8. I will be traveling. I would be able to
> > >respond to email, however. Is there anything we should discuss today
> > >(Tuesday)? I hope you have found some interesting behavior with the
> > >samples. I hope we can continue and complete the washing experiments.
> > >That is some useful information, although it probably will not be fully
> > >utilized for the restoration of Bikini as it now appears. Nevertheless,
> > >plans and objectives can change and knowledge of Cs behavior in such
> > >soils remains a missing link.
> > >
> > >Best regards,
> > >
> > >--
> > >Russell Yost
> > >University of Hawai`i at Manoa
> > >1910 East West Road
> > >Honolulu, Hawai`i
> > >
> > >Phone: 808-956-7066
> > >Fax: 808-956-6539
> > >Email: rsyost@hawaii.edu
> > >Web: http://agrss.sherman.hawaii.edu/staff/yost.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Charles R. Phillips
>
> - --
> Russell Yost
> University of Hawai`i at Manoa
> 1910 East West Road
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> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 07:44:00 -0700
> From: Loren Muldowney <loscott@envsci.rutgers.EDU>
> Subject: Re: Fighting the wrong enemy
>
> > Nevertheless, I believe the real insight is the distinction between
> > those who assess risks in a technical sense, versus those whose decisions
> > are reached based on moral/ethical grounds. This gap cannot be bridged by
> > more research alone, because one side presents more and more scientific
> > research they believe is convincing, while the other side presents a moral
> > argument that they believe is convincing, and neither side addresses the
> > other's concerns.
>
> Well said and worth repeating. And the "scientific" side has earned the
> distrust of the other by its bullying, to the detriment of science in
> the mind of the public, I believe, in the following way.
>
> The sales force for the scientific side continues to insist on how
> objective its take, how external, how APOLITICAL. Apparently it is
> blind to the fact that the position of wanting to use risk assessment
> rather than make a coherent argument on other grounds, and the idea that
> those who are more convinced by ethical arguments are nevertheless to be
> forced to accept risk assessment methodology applied to them, is of
> itself a highly political and non-scientific position. This point is
> not, of course, lost upon anyone else.
>
> LM
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> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 11:27:54 -0500
> From: mmiller@pcsia.com
> Subject: Clearinghouse Proposal
>
> Given the halftruth nature of many press releases that have graced our list
> and " the long Shelf-life " of these halftruths as one list member put it,
> I was wondering if any site was following these bits of agricultural
> doublespeak and offering critical reasoned responses? Misha recently
> mentioned this type of site for economic analysis at :
>
> http://www.fair.org/err/index.html
>
> but I am wondering if there is an equivalent site that keeps track of the
> Fib of the Day from the "life science" industry?
>
> Several people have offered very elegant and reasoned rebuttals to some of
> these pieces of spin. What is needed is a place to collect and edit this
> information into a format that is useful to the person who suspects a half
> truth but does not have the information to expose the spinmeister that some
> list members have.
>
> Does anybody know of such a site? Is any existing site or organization
> interesting in adding such a feature?
>
> Mike Miller
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> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:04:44 -0400
> From: "Harris, Craig" <Craig.Harris@ssc.msu.edu>
> Subject: RE: Farmland Preservation
>
> while it may put the brakes on development, it does not stop development,
> and it redistributes the benefits of develop . . . if the smallest parcel of
> farmland that can be partitioned off is 40 acres, then only developers with
> sufficient financial backing will be able to get into the game . . . a
> smaller number of well-bankrolled developers will be in a stronger
> bargaining position vis-a-vis the farmland owners who wish to sell their
> land, and thus will be able to drive down the price paid to farmland owners
> . . . once these developers own the land, they will want to maximize the
> profit they obtain from their investment, so they are more likely to build
> higher density subdivisions . . . they are less likely to retain five or ten
> acre parcels with a single family residence, and thus they are less likely
> to retain rural open space
> cheers,
> craig
>
> craig k harris
> department of sociology
> michigan state university
> 429b berkey hall
> east lansing michigan 48824-1111
> tel: 517-355-5048
> fax: 517-432-2856
>
> > ----------
> > From: Paul Schmitmeyer[SMTP:ps@erinet.com]
> > Sent: Friday 10 September 1999 6:58 AM
> > To: Sanet
> > Subject: Farmland Preservation
> >
> > Hi all,
> > In our area there is a county that recently voted for legislation that
> > the smallest parcel of land that can be sold off a farm is 40 acres. This
> > put the brakes on any developement. Anyone that wants to build has to
> > purchase a 40 acre plot reducing the number of people finacially able to
> > do that. Furthermore, most people would probably opt to rent out the
> > remaining acreage.
> > Paul
> >
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