Re: Bible phobia

Sal (sals@rain.org)
Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:20:29 -0700

I seen on TV tonight that religious leaders are suing for just the reasons
we are talking about. its nothing personal . .and u see now folks are suing
because of the no labels and the fact they the government is infringing on
the right of one to practice their beliefs. I can see that can u. two many
religious folks have dietary laws and this is not right. not labeling is
not right because folks now can not trust any food from the USA unless its
organic . School kid should sue and only eat organic or the poor kids that
want to follow their God have no idea what is in the food at school. is
that a apple or a porkapple. is the milk from cows that have been injected
with a genetically engineered growth hormone or not. Can't folks see the
changes are a coming. right is might. people of a lot of different faiths
are coming together and saying we are mad as hell and we are not going to
take it any more. this evil is so evil that different faiths are coming
together as one voice saying LABEL your Frankenstein foods .we don't want
to be the white mice.

check out a organic growers web page
http://www.rain.org/~sals/my.html
----- Original Message -----
From: Bargyla Rateaver <brateaver@earthlink.net>
To: <jknotwell@ded1.ded.state.ne.us>
Cc: <sanet-mg@ces.ncsu.edu>
Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: Bible phobia

> You know, folks, all you folks, I never intended to start a furor. As I
have
> said repeatedly, I just start writing as I think, and as much of my
thinking
> is so saturated with what I had dinned into me, morning, noon and night
all my
> young years, and then on my own, due to my own interest, Bible talks just
> seems to do itself--I don't realize the slant of my own wording, I
suppose.
>
> So if everyone will just try to put up with me, I'll try to be more
ordinary
> in my writing. Thanks to each and every one who sounds so tolerant and
> --should I say--:forgiving--.
>
>
>
> jknotwell@ded1.ded.state.ne.us wrote:
>
> > Nothing like a little Bible quotation to raise the hackles and send
> > everyone retreating into the safer realm of science. For such a
> > simple concept, faith can be so mind-bogglingly complex for many.
> > Do we really need "no religion rules" to operate honorably on this
> > list? Do we really need to observe the "I'm OK, You're OK" attitude
> > about truth? Do we really need to assert religious falsehoods to
> > make our points?
> >
> > Religion is the realm within which we search for the truth...and
> > there is only one (truth, that is). There are definitely thousands of
> > religions searching for it, but there is only one truth to find. How is
> > sustainable agriculture not a religion? If there was no creation to
> > steward and love, we would not even have this list or this topic?
> >
> > Saying that we are all right in our beliefs simply because they are
> > ours (the Druids are right because thats what they believe, the
> > Muslims are right because thats what they believe, on and on ad
> > infinitum) gets us no closer to the truth, and puts us on a
> > ridiculously high pedestal relative to the Creator. The only thing we
> > know for certain is that we don't know the whole truth. So if we
> > take a stand for certain behaviors as being right (sustainable
> > agriculture for instance), then that is an act of faith and nothing to
> > be ashamed of, nor frightened of, nor is it a discussion to be
> > avoided.
> >
> > Lastly, before we assert our perception of "strange" religious
> > practice, we had better assess our own ignorance. Catholics, for
> > example, do not "worship" dead saints nor icons...they worship the
> > triune God, the Creator. That they ask for prayerful intercession
> > from dead saints (residing in heaven nonetheless), or conclude
> > after considerable deliberation that grace can be transferred via
> > inanimate objects, is also an act of faith and should serve as an
> > initiator of discussion, not a barrier.
> >
> > So thank you Bargyla for opening this particular can of worms, as
> > we all know worms are beneficial and not to be avoided. So, with
> > all due respect and diplomacy, let's get on with it.
> >
> > JimK
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