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>From: "Gwyneth E. Harris" <gharris@zoo.uvm.edu>
>To: Bargyla Rateaver <brateaver@earthlink.net>
>Cc: Phil Gillman <pgillman@cafarmersmarkets.org>, sanet-mg@ces.ncsu.edu
>Subject: god and the ice age
>Date: Aug 16, 1999, 1:10 PM
>
> Sorry, but I can't take it any more! Bargyla, the only thing that is
> worthless on this list is people who discount and insult other people's
> views. Your religion is great for you, but, in case you hadn't noticed,
> it's not the only one out there, and it is insulting for you to continue
> to speak down to those who have different beliefs--scientific, religious
> or whatever else. I respect your right to hold views and express them,
> but when it comes to calling other people's ideas "worthless" and
> discounting them outright, I get all riled up. I'd rather drown than
> loose the right to think and feel what I believe--and I'm sure you feel
> the same way, so be nice and open your mind! They're just ideas. Maybe
> we'll have two or three more ice ages before your creator restores your
> eden--maybe your right, and it's coming right up, maybe we all will just
> die of old age and compost slowly. The point is, that whatever i
> personally think is right, I don't tell you that you're wrong.
>
> I've posted this to the whole list so that if others out there think I'm
> being unreasonable, they can let me know... I hope that this is all taken
> in the spirit in which it was written--annoyed yet honest.
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> Gwyneth Harris
> Moretown, VT
> gharris@zoo.uvm.edu
>
> On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Bargyla Rateaver wrote:
>
>> All these ideas are really worthless, because they go contrary to what the
>> Creator has already said will happen. He will melt all the ice and snow as
>> part of the ways He will carry on His war of Armageddon, destroying the
entire
>> manmade system of living, and restore Eden, human and nature perfection
>> forever on a perfect planet.
>>
>> Sure, scientists will say this is silly, but time will prove the Creator
right
>> as always. All those people before the Flood thought they were pretty smart
>> too, but they all drowned.
>>
>> Phil Gillman wrote:
>>
>> > Another ice age is indeed very possible, as one of the most likely
>> > scenarios to result from global warming is the disruption of the North
>> > Atlantic Sink, the area off of Greenland where glacial runoff sinks into
>> > the deep, rather than remaining on the surface. Unfortunately, if the
>> > volume of this fresh water becomes too great, then the sink is
>> > disrupted. (So what's the big deal?) well, if the sink is disrupted, the
>> > surface currents are then inturn disrupted, and the surface current most
>> > likely to be effected is the Gulf Stream. The failure of the sink would
>> > most likely stop the flow of the gulf stream, and almost immediately
>> > plung europe into an ice age, which would in turn effect global weather
>> > systems drastically. This Appears to have happened in the past, often
>> > occuring suddenly, over the course of only 2 to 5 years altering global
>> > weather patterns.
>> >
>> > Many scientists are begining to see this as the most likely outcome of
>> > continued global warming (a sort of ecological rebalancing perhaps ;-)
>> > SO, grow organic, and rotate in grazing animals- for that seems to be
>> > the best way to survive a drought, AND reduce global warming at the same
>> > time-
>> >
>> > Phil Gillman
>> > Sustainable Systems Consulting and Marketing
>> > philmang@hotmail.com
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