god and the ice age

Gwyneth E. Harris (gharris@zoo.uvm.edu)
Mon, 16 Aug 1999 16:10:09 -0400 (EDT)

Sorry, but I can't take it any more! Bargyla, the only thing that is
worthless on this list is people who discount and insult other people's
views. Your religion is great for you, but, in case you hadn't noticed,
it's not the only one out there, and it is insulting for you to continue
to speak down to those who have different beliefs--scientific, religious
or whatever else. I respect your right to hold views and express them,
but when it comes to calling other people's ideas "worthless" and
discounting them outright, I get all riled up. I'd rather drown than
loose the right to think and feel what I believe--and I'm sure you feel
the same way, so be nice and open your mind! They're just ideas. Maybe
we'll have two or three more ice ages before your creator restores your
eden--maybe your right, and it's coming right up, maybe we all will just
die of old age and compost slowly. The point is, that whatever i
personally think is right, I don't tell you that you're wrong.

I've posted this to the whole list so that if others out there think I'm
being unreasonable, they can let me know... I hope that this is all taken
in the spirit in which it was written--annoyed yet honest.
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Gwyneth Harris
Moretown, VT
gharris@zoo.uvm.edu

On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Bargyla Rateaver wrote:

> All these ideas are really worthless, because they go contrary to what the
> Creator has already said will happen. He will melt all the ice and snow as
> part of the ways He will carry on His war of Armageddon, destroying the entire
> manmade system of living, and restore Eden, human and nature perfection
> forever on a perfect planet.
>
> Sure, scientists will say this is silly, but time will prove the Creator right
> as always. All those people before the Flood thought they were pretty smart
> too, but they all drowned.
>
> Phil Gillman wrote:
>
> > Another ice age is indeed very possible, as one of the most likely
> > scenarios to result from global warming is the disruption of the North
> > Atlantic Sink, the area off of Greenland where glacial runoff sinks into
> > the deep, rather than remaining on the surface. Unfortunately, if the
> > volume of this fresh water becomes too great, then the sink is
> > disrupted. (So what's the big deal?) well, if the sink is disrupted, the
> > surface currents are then inturn disrupted, and the surface current most
> > likely to be effected is the Gulf Stream. The failure of the sink would
> > most likely stop the flow of the gulf stream, and almost immediately
> > plung europe into an ice age, which would in turn effect global weather
> > systems drastically. This Appears to have happened in the past, often
> > occuring suddenly, over the course of only 2 to 5 years altering global
> > weather patterns.
> >
> > Many scientists are begining to see this as the most likely outcome of
> > continued global warming (a sort of ecological rebalancing perhaps ;-)
> > SO, grow organic, and rotate in grazing animals- for that seems to be
> > the best way to survive a drought, AND reduce global warming at the same
> > time-
> >
> > Phil Gillman
> > Sustainable Systems Consulting and Marketing
> > philmang@hotmail.com
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