Re: Organic Standards for Livestock

Sal (sals@rain.org)
Mon, 12 Jul 1999 13:48:32 -0700

your way of thinking bothers me. I think u can be organic and not do crop
rotations I can understand why the law just tells us what not to use because
this telling us what to use is wrong. wrong wrong . u can be organic
without crop rotations,compost,covercrop etc. this telling us we have to do
this and we have to do that is bull. I don't use synthics so I am organic
if I rotate or not. quit telling us how to farm. I i feed organic feed
and I keep chickens in a pen so the coyotes don't eat them I am still
organic. u can tell me what not to use but this telling us organic growers
how we must farm is bs. this whole organic tax is bs. some of the organic
folks want to make their way law. this is getting nuts. I don't rotate, I
have spent years building my soil I don't have to add anything or do
anything . If you don't add anything or do any of that other stuff your
organic . these folks want to force us to farm their way. it not about
organic it is about the only way to do it is their way. o you have to not
pin up your chickens you have to do it our way. organic is organic . dam
organic Gestapo now they want to tell us how to farm and their way is the
right way. sure they know everything bull shit these are the folks that got
all this police action going like we are bad guys or something and have to
be told how to raise chickens or food. one year the inspector told me I had
to cut my weeds or I was not organic . these guys are really getting nuts.
no I don't use compost no I don't covercrop ( I may plant a few fava beans )
I can farm by neglect and still be organic. If I don't use non organic
stuff I am organic . I don't need a army of police to farm organic . never
did for 6000 years never need anyone looking over my shoulder. you want to
police someone go police those that use non organic stuff. tax them. this
singling out organic growers for organic tax and register like a sex
offender and load them up with bs paper work and make them jump through
hoops just to be organic is nuts. I have to fill out paper work for three
different groups of people and pay them all protection money like the Mafia
or something. I have a certifier why do I need a state and fed gov to
also taxes me why should I pay so many people to be organic each one u have
to kiss up too and bow down too and they don't do shit to help u farm .
they are all on a power trip. everyone is saying down with big government
yet these nuts gave the word organic to the USDA and took it away from the
people. power trippers. now they want to tell me not only what not to use
but also what to use. why don't they just come over and farm for me. they
all want to tell u what to do yet they don't do shit. paying all these
guys supporting all these folks for what? you might like it I don't. if I
sell one avocado I have to pay a certifier ,a inspector, the state , the
feds, the picking order tax on avocado etc. on and on I have to pay all
these folks for selling avocados . and bow down to each one and fill out
paper work for each one and pay each one year after year and thats not all
also the person I sell to also has to pay all these folks and do paper work
for all these folks just to carry my stuff. they get paid more for the
avocados than me . they take the money right off the top. who need this bs.
then the avocados are taxed in the store once again. don't u guys think
this is getting nuts. how many political pencil pusher does it take to see
that one small farm is organic. now they want to tell us how we have to do
it not just what not to use. bs

sorry but bs

check out a organic growers web page
http://www.rain.org/~sals/my.html
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg & Lei Gunthorp <hey4hogs@kuntrynet.com>
To: sanet <sanet-mg@amani.ces.ncsu.edu>
Sent: Monday, July 12, 1999 7:26 AM
Subject: Fw: Organic Standards for Livestock

>
>
> ----------
> > From: Sprinkraft@aol.com
> > To: hey4hogs@kuntrynet.com
> > Subject: Organic Standards for Livestock
> > Date: Monday, July 12, 1999 8:34 AM
> >
> > Greg and Lei:
> >
As I recently wrote, there
> are
> > few concepts that can be considered "philosophical" in the law, but crop
> > rotations is one of them-and what needs to be uncovered is the science
> behind
> > the prescription.

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