Fw: Organic Standards for Livestock

Greg & Lei Gunthorp (hey4hogs@kuntrynet.com)
Mon, 12 Jul 1999 09:26:30 -0500

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> From: Sprinkraft@aol.com
> To: hey4hogs@kuntrynet.com
> Subject: Organic Standards for Livestock
> Date: Monday, July 12, 1999 8:34 AM
>
> Greg and Lei:
>
> Could you post this to SANET for me? I unsubscribed ten days or so ago
> because I was geting far too much mail to keep up with it. I read on the
> archive that you and others have been discussing some of the things I
> mentioned in my article, and wanted to respond. Thanks. I will subscribe
> again once the dust settles.
> Steve
>
>
> I am glad to see some discussion on organic livestock, and perhaps we can

> draw some thoughts together because the NOP Proposed Rule will come out
this
> fall, and the discussion would be a good preparation. For reference, ake
a
> look at some of the current organic standards, like IFOAM, CODEX, the
AOS,
> OCIA, FVO. These are on the web, and the AOS may be a good comparative (
> ota.com)
>
> First of all, the law and the federal standard provides a framework that
is
> based on prohibition rather than prescription. As I recently wrote, there
are
> few concepts that can be considered "philosophical" in the law, but crop
> rotations is one of them-and what needs to be uncovered is the science
behind
> the prescription.
>
> That science seems to be saying that confinement and little access to
nature
> will not fit the organic plan. We can rightly infer that one depends on
> invasive often synthetic responses to disease because of confinement-and
the
> alternative is....rotational grazing, exercise, socialization, unpolluted

> water, and other holistic concepts.
>
> Another faint glimmer of hope is the occasional language used in the law
that
> broadly supports the sound tradition....such as the prohbiting the use of

> substances that are "inconsistent with organic farming or handling, and
the
> purposes of this title."
>
> Now the title, or the entire law, intends to define organic....but this
> statement tends to provide a broader coverage of expectations that are
not
> elucidated within the statute...and those expectations I feel are more
> conservative than liberal. In other words, limit and restrict production
> methods that are inconsistent with "the conventional wisdom" ( to borrow
from
> Galbraith) that is in the eye of the beholder within the system, rather
than
> accept those outside the system who are looking for loopholes or
exceptions
> to the common sense approach to creating an organic farm plan.
"Consistent
> with organic farming" can provide us with the means to reflect on our
> tradition.
>
> You also have to factor in consumer expectation-this is THEIR law, more
than
> anyone elses. The purposes of the OFPA are
>
> 1 ) to establish national standards governing the marketing of certain
> agricultural products as organically produced products; (2) to assure
> consumers that organically produced products meet a consistent standard;
and
> (3) to facilitate interstate commerce in fresh and processed food that is

> organically produced.
>
> Number 3 can not subvert the intentions of Number 2. Facilitating trade
has
> often been taken as a mandate to expand a market with less conservative
> standards, and that is where one encounters questions like parasiticide
use,
> confinement, and interpretations on humane treatment.
>
> Common sense ( and some experience) will tell you when you are looking at
an
> organic livestock system....and when you are not. Poultry is a fairly
vexing
> sector, for example. Unless we expect organic poultry production to
resemble
> something from the 18th century-or a system like Joel Salatin's-birds are

> probably going to be kept in houses, not allowed outside, and will have a
few
> square feet per bird. They will be fed organic feed, but generally the
> housing will resemble conventional systems. How can standards provide for

> humane treatment, access to nature, and aversion to non-feed inputs? Are
> these concepts consistent with organic farming?
>
> I have seen some pretty neat systems that are variations on that
theme-and
> even encountered organic farmers that elect to only produce birds in the
> summer months in order to make a more pleasant system possible. Organic
is
> pleasant, isn't it? When it is pleasant, one doesn't encounter manure
> management problems, air or water pollution, flock health problems, or
> inhumane circumstances. The federal law and most certification standards
do
> not allow a system that harms the environment. One encounters
prohibitions on
> spreading manure on frozen ground in standards such as OCIA's, for
example.
> If you have a feed lot in South Dakota on limited space, I think this
means
> you have a problem-not just with OCIA but with the OFPA as well.
>
> These issues are being addressed on a daily basis. Should we expect an
> absolute at this point? We are in the middle of the game, not at the end.

> Will confined poultry be allowed with beak trimming? Will animal feed
lots be
> allowed? Will swine be pastured or or penned on concrete? Some of these
> things can be answered not by comparing them to conventional corporate
> agriculture, but by imposing other requirements, for example, by
prohibiting
> synthetic medications, demanding a strict non-polluting manure management

> program, no synthetic pesticides, no dependence on organic pesticides
> either. Most certification organizations place things like rotenone on
the "
> restricted" list, and also ask the question: " What are you doing to
> eliminate your dependence on the use of this material?"
>
> If you have a feed lot, you have flies. You have a manure problem. You
also
> have a consumer/social problem. To address factory farming, more
requirements
> are proposed or have been imposed, from EQIP to state laws prohbiting
> corporate ag or county ordinances prohibiting large facilities. These
infer a
> more pleasant system, and organic is one definition of those systems.
Organic
> should not resemble the vertically integrated confinement, non-land
based,
> factory farm model.
>
> Steve Sprinkel
>
>

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