My purpose was to call for a complete series of tests. The concept raised is of interest. And while these discussions can help point the way to a valid test plot series design, it will have to be done in the earth, rather than in cyberspace. The variables discussed were: Garlic, hot chile pepper, and the possible removal of a micronutrient deficiency that made the plant more suceptible; or a combination of the three, plus the possibility that other factors remain unidentified.
This is going to take some serious work before being resolved, by someone (or an institution) that can follow up on it. I would appreciate being sent the results and hope that they would be posted here, if this happens.
D H
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On 27/05/99 at 11:03 AM Russ Bulluck wrote:
>Boric Acid is considered a insect irritant. . . I don't know if borax has the same interaction. (Supposedly, the boric acid crystals get between the exoskeleton and underlying tissue, and drives the bugs wild. . .) Just my two cents. . .Russ
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>Fred Magdoff wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> Keep in mind that borax is an insecticide and is used for roach control in urban settings. Not sure of its mode of action, nor how broadly it is toxic.
>>
>> FRED
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>> Douglas M. Hinds wrote:
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>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > >the addition of the borax worked, aphids disappeared, which led me to assume a boron
>> > >deficiency, ...as main attractant for bugs
>> >
>> > You are implying that the neither the Hot Chili Pepper nor the Garlic present in the solution applied were significant contributing factors to the aphids' disappearance? It would be interesting (and important) to verify this by doing another series of tests with more controls. What are the possibilities of doing that on your end (in deference to the antecedents you already have behind you)? Or perhaps there are others receiving this that may be better positioned to do this sooner. A soil analysis to determine the existence of a boron (or other micronutrient) deficiency would also help correlate your supposition (which I have no quarrel with - my interest is in corroborating it).
>> >
>> > D H
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>> > On 27/05/99 at 9:17 AM Argall Family wrote:
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>> > >I have in the past combined chili, pepper, garlic, clay, without real
>> > >benefit, until I added a very small amount of borax, in the opinion of an
>> > >entomologist scarcely enough to annoy ants working aphids. But the addition
>> > >of the borax worked, aphids disappeared, which led me to assume a boron
>> > >deficiency, quite likely in our wet environment. I tend to come back to
>> > >suspecting soil deficiency as main attractant for bugs, and the need to work
>> > >on nutrition while getting rid of the immediate problem.
>> > >
>> > >Dennis
>> > >
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