>what they got sick and/or died from
was mycobacterium bovis. (Bovine Tuburculosis). Lots of it around here in cows. (As shown by studies done by vet students and faculty on milk cows taken to the municipal slaughter house and sacrificed). And lots of it in people (as shown by the cases registered with the health departmentment and treated by them. I had all of them interviewed, but wasn't able to interview those that had already died). This and brucellosis (rarely mortal but can have lengthy or lasting sequela) are the main reasons pasturization is required by law. Keep your cows habitat clean, feed them well (w/ fresh food preferably), be sure your cows get plenty exercise and are free from zoonosis, so everyone can live to enjoy the higher nutritional value and better taste of raw milk. Otherwise, I can assure you that it just isn't worth it.
DH
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On 24/05/99 at 2:10 PM Paul Schmitmeyer wrote:
>Please let me know what they got sick and/or died from when they drank raw
>milk. Was the producer grade "A". The reason I asked was that we live in an
>area with many dairy farms and in all the time I've been around I've never
>even heard of anyone getting sick from let alone die from unpasturized milk.
>Furthermore, as far as I know our herboligest(sp?) and their comunity highly
>recommends unpasturized milk because of its high nutritional value. Please
>shed some light on this.
>Thanks,
>Paul Schmitmeyer
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Douglas M. Hinds <dmhinds@acnet.net>
>To: Phil Gillman <pgillman@cafarmersmarkets.org>; sanet-mg@ces.ncsu.edu
><sanet-mg@ces.ncsu.edu>
>Date: Friday, May 21, 1999 3:03 PM
>Subject: Re: Raw Milk CSA's
>
>
>>
>>The "shareholders" will have to agree that the milk is not for human
>consumption, in order to relieve the producer / distributor from liability.
>That way, the subscriber would be responsable for any other use.
>>
>>>i've never know anyone who got sick from fresh milk,
>>
>>Unfortunately, I've known plenty who have and some died from it. The
>important thing is to be sure the cows are free from TB (Brucellosis too,
>although it's rarely lethal), and that handling avoids contamination from
>salmonella and listeria etc.
>>
>>DH
>>
>>
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>>
>>On 21/05/99 at 10:39 AM Phil Gillman wrote:
>>
>>>You know, perhaps this would not be considered "selling" the milk if you
>>>word the CSA contract well- After all, the members are "shareholders",
>>>and the milk is their "dividend"
>>>
>>>No need for special "raw milk licencing" (which you may not need in VT
>>>any way)
>>>
>>>BUT, be sure to Include and indemnity from liability in the CSA
>>>contract, You know, make everyone aware that they are choosing to drink
>>>raw milk and that there may be some risks involved (although i've never
>>>know anyone who got sick from fresh milk, and i've been drinking it all
>>>my life- ;-)
>>>
>>>Best of luck-
>>>Phil Gillman
>>>pgillman@cafarmersmarkets.org
>>>
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