Re: sanet-mg-digest V1 #1036

Bargyla Rateaver (brateaver@earthlink.net)
Fri, 21 May 1999 21:23:59 -0700

Why does everybody keep quoting that Avery? I figured the very first time I encountered his silly talk, that he is completely dominated by Satan. When the Creator restores Eden, pretty soon, such people will have been wiped out by the Creator, and no one there will
ever need to worry about anything for soil---nothing like that needed in a perfect world.

Of course, most people would dismiss such talk without a second's thought.
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Dan Anderson wrote:

> In response to Victoria's post (below),
>
> Mark David and Lowell Gentry are doing some fresh N work here in Illinois. They have one paper published and one in review. It might give you a place to start. The papers are:
>
> Nitrogen Balance in and Export from an Agricultural Watershed. Journal of Environmental Quality, vol26, no. 4, July-August 1997
>
> Historical Trends in Net Anthropogenic Inputs of N and P and Riverine Export in a Predominantly Agricultural U.S. State. Journal of Environmental Quality (in review).
>
> --Dan
>
> >In an article published in _Choices_ magazine (First Quarter 1997, p.
> >10-13), Mr. Avery brought up a point that I'd appreciate some research
> >direction on...it appeared to be a point that does need addressing instead
> >of dismissing.
> >
> >He says that we do not have enough organic nitrogen to support organic
> >production. He suggests that the only way to get the necessary N is to
> >clear forests to plant more legumes.
> >
> >Of course his suggestion is narrow-minded and he ignores a whole raft of
> >issues such as conservation of N and sensible usage, but the question of
> >N-sufficiency did give me pause. I especially had to stop to think because
> >most of the organic farmers I talk to *do* tend to import N in the form of
> >off-farm compost, off-farm manure, etc. Their goal is always not to have
> >to do so, but this goal seems difficult to achieve.
> >
> >I'd welcome ideas, especially those that lead me to the library.
>
> Dan Anderson
> Agroecology/Sustainable Agriculture Program
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
> Dept. of Natural Resources and Environmental Sciences
> W-503 Turner Hall
> 1102 S. Goodwin
> Urbana, IL 61801 MC-047
> 217/333-1588
> 217/333-7370 fax
> aslan@uiuc.edu
>
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