Re: GMO and cars

Bargyla Rateaver (brateaver@earthlink.net)
Sun, 16 May 1999 07:26:56 -0700

How sad it is, that the completely, totally perfect conditions everyone really would
want, are to be worldwide SOON, altho we don't know when, exactly.---and still people
don't want to know about it, because it could never, ever be of human effort, but is
a sure promise from the Creator.
All this fuss and stew, because humans are caught in this life net, when an
absolutely perfect world is right around the corner, but hardly anyone really wants
it.
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Douglas M. Hinds wrote:

> Hi Maurizio,
>
> >Create a GE rice for high productivity, diseases resistant, drought
> >tollerant, no terminator, and give it away for free. And let the
> >against-GMO people explain why not to use it in the Third World.
> >
> >Create a GE peach or a GE apple variety diseases and insects resistant,
> >constantly bearing, harvest in one time, slow ripening, high shelf-life,
> >full bright red; doing so you cut the production costs to one half, sell
> >the fruit cheaper than the normal fruits. And explain the consumer why they
> >cost less... Just to see what happens.
>
> I have a word for this: "Fantasy" (If it were true, if it were the whole story,
> the word would be "Fantastic"). However .... (there will be no shortage of
> responses explaining to Maurizio - who has contributed some good posts
> in the past - the difference between living, sexually derived organisms and
> cars).
>
> DH
>
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> On 14/05/99 at 11:06 PM MV wrote:
>
> >I would like to talk about the similarity between GMOs and cars.
> >Car is a technology; it exploits nature; it causes pollution; it causes
> >200.000 deaths every year in the world. Nobody would like to eliminate the
> >car technology from our planet. It is too much CONFORTABLE. Who cares on
> >the deaths, the pollution and the nature?
> >Think beginning of the century: if someone had said "car will kill people
> >as a war every year", would we have had car today? But today it is too
> >late, car is CONFORTABLE.
> >(this thought is from Isaac Asimov)
> >
> >With GMOs, we are at the beginning of the century. We will have problems,
> >pollution and maybe deaths. But if GMOs will be CONFORTABLE, nobody will
> >renounce to them.
> >
> >Create a GE rice for high productivity, diseases resistant, drought
> >tollerant, no terminator, and give it away for free. And let the
> >against-GMO people explain why not to use it in the Third World.
> >
> >Create a GE peach or a GE apple variety diseases and insects resistant,
> >constantly bearing, harvest in one time, slow ripening, high shelf-life,
> >full bright red; doing so you cut the production costs to one half, sell
> >the fruit cheaper than the normal fruits. And explain the consumer why they
> >cost less... Just to see what happens.
> >
> >I have the maximum respect to who treats the GMO matter as a religious
> >point of view, because they simply said "no, it is my feeling". They don't
> >use pseudo-scientific affirmations. I have the maximum respect for religions.
> >
> >Often I see the use of scientific *evidences* that are not. In every
> >experiment or pseudo-evidence against GE I have always found the lacking of
> >the *control*, that statistically speaking is somethings very clear.
> >Please, show me the control.
> >
> >The wrong beginning was to start with food. GE should have started with
> >flowers. People (we) don't treat flowers as part of the nature. We cut
> >them, and put in some place in the house to let them die. GE should have
> >started with GM flowers that takes forever to die. This is confortable.
> >People'd started to think "GE is confortable" and that's all.
> >
> >Maurizio Ventura
> >
> >
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