Re: GMO and cars

Douglas M. Hinds (dmhinds@acnet.net)
Sat, 15 May 1999 06:44:08 -0600

Hi Maurizio,

>I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean with "shortage of
>responses" (it's my bad English). Do you mean that you are not going to
>explain me the difference in a short reply? It's fine, I think I know already.
>
>Thank you for your reply.

The problem is that I have to do three events in three states in three days
and the first one is later today, in another state. I'm driving there and I'm not
even packed. These are events that I myself had set up and I am the sole
exponente (speaker). I promise to do it later (unless some one else does
the job first).

Basically, genes that were developed over millenniums in one evolutionary
line can not necessarily be snipped out and pasted in another organism
with different origins and (perhaps), destiny. This issue is far more complex
than the variables the you are looking at and raises questions of integrity -
biological and ecological integrity that simply have never been dealt with
since life began on this planet. No one has the answers at this point and
much more caution is called for than that which has been mandated, as yet.
The way you are postulating the issue, your conclusions are foregone, self
justified. But there are aspects to the issue you are ignoring and so many
unknowns that any wholesale presumption is simply uncalled for at this time.

That's all I can do for now. Perhaps someone else can amplify on this line
of reasoning.

Gotta get ready to leave.

Si no te lo explican suficientemente bien aqui mismo, vuelvo a tocar el tema
enseguida. Pero por el momento me retiro, debido a compromisos serios
contraidos con anterioridad. (Disculpe). Luego hablamos de nuevo de esto.

DH

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On 15/05/99 at 7:53 AM MV wrote:

>>Create a GE rice for high productivity, diseases resistant, drought
>>>tollerant, no terminator, and give it away for free. And let the
>>>against-GMO people explain why not to use it in the Third World.
>>>
>>>Create a GE peach or a GE apple variety diseases and insects resistant,
>>>constantly bearing, harvest in one time, slow ripening, high shelf-life,
>>>full bright red; doing so you cut the production costs to one half, sell
>>>the fruit cheaper than the normal fruits. And explain the consumer why they
>>>cost less... Just to see what happens.
>>
>>I have a word for this: "Fantasy" (If it were true, if it were the whole
>>story, the word would be "Fantastic").
>
>About the "Fantastic":
>in rice the Xa21 gene confer disease resistance and it is already here; I
>don't have time to search in databases, but few DNA sequences related to
>drought resistance should be already published; in my knowledge we lack
>only the gene that gives the capability to develop every flower in a seed.
>
>In apple the genes for scab, mildew, aphids resistance are known, the
>sequences still lacking; constantly bearing can be achieved by a
>parthenocarpic gene that makes the fruit develop in any case (sequence
>available); harvest, ripening and shelf-life can be modified by genes that
>reduce ethylene production (already done in tomato, in apple and peach
>sequences available); the gene for the full bright red colour is under
>studying.
>
>
> However .... (there will be no shortage of
>>responses explaining to Maurizio - who has contributed some good posts
>>in the past - the difference between living, sexually derived organisms and
>>cars).
>
>I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean with "shortage of
>responses" (it's my bad English). Do you mean that you are not going to
>explain me the difference in a short reply? It's fine, I think I know already.
>
>Thank you for your reply.
>
>Maurizio

Douglas M. Hinds
Centro para el Desarrollo Comunitario y Rural, A.C. (CeDeCoR)
(Center for Community and Rural Development)
Petronilo Lopez No. 73
Cd. Guzman, Jalisco 49000 MEXICO
e-mail: dmhinds@acnet.net, cedecor@acnet.net, cedecor@ipnet.com.mx

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