Re: weeds

Bill Liebhardt (wcliebhardt@ucdavis.edu)
Wed, 05 May 1999 13:35:45 -0700

At 12:50 PM 5/5/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Bill, We are starting a 4 year rotation. Where we have the most trouble
>is in an old rye & vetch cover crop I disked to plant the oats . I am
>planing to harvest the oats for grain and have red clover inter seeded
>.Right now our oats are about 3 or 4 inches tall with weeds a lot taller
>we live in central Illinois.At the time I disked the field it looked
>dead so I thought 1 disking would do but I have quite a bit of growth
>out there.

Floyd, not an easy thing to predict what might happen. If you were to mow
it all I think it would still all come back but the oats would have a more
even chance. However mowing would delay it all and I suspect the yield
would be quite low due to the delay. A second option would be make silage
or hay out of the whole thing at the milk to dough stage for the oats and
rye. A third option would be to just let it all go and harvest it as grain
and take it to a seed dealer or place that has the ability to separate the
seed. You could then sell the various components separately. I would
check this out early, like now to see if that is possible in your area. If
you have animals you could separate out the vetch to sell or seed and feed
the grain. I am not sure when this would all be ready for harvest and if
the three species have will be ready to combine at the same time. That
could present problems for you if they do not. It would also keep the crop
out there longer which could impact the red clover adversely.

Cutting it for hay or silage would get it off earlier and avoid many of the
problems I have mentioned but if you do not have animals then you would
have to find a market for your hay. These are some of the options I would
see for you-not a clear cut choice from my view but you have a better sense
of the long term and where you want to go and what you are trying to do.
Maybe one of the options will work much better for you than the others. I
would be interested in what you decide to do and how it works out.

Best Wishes on this,

Bill Liebhardt

>
>Bill Liebhardt wrote:
>>
>> At 11:33 AM 5/5/99 -0500, you wrote:
>> >I am going through transition to organics and I have weeds in my oats(
>> >rye vetch grass etc.) and I was considering mowing . Do you think this
>> >might work.
>>
>> Floyd, it would help if you were more specific about what you have and what
>> you would like to happen. Do you want to harvest the oats for hay or
>> grain? Is there a legume-grass such as alfalfa/grass seeded with the oats
>> or is it oats alone? Are you using the oats to get ready for another crop?
>>
>> Let me know more about this and I will try to help. Where are you located?
>>
>> Bill
>> >
>> >
>> > Sincerely Floyd
>> >
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