Re: Vinton Soybean prices

Greg & Lei Gunthorp (hey4hogs@kuntrynet.com)
Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:02:12 -0500

I suspect a lot of the newby organic farmers will bail this year and be at
least three years away from being organic farmers again. But, it might be
like any other industry. We might still see an increase this year as more
new people are still making decisions based on talking to people that sold
$20+ beans. Anybody have predictions on organic bean acres this year and
harvest price?

Rich, Do you raise organic beans?

Best wishes,
Greg
Gunthorp's Pasture-ized Pork
LaGrange, Indiana
visit our farm at www.grassfarmer.com

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> From: Richard Mazour <rm14421@navix.net>
> To: Greg & Lei Gunthorp <hey4hogs@kuntrynet.com>
> Cc: Bob MacGregor <rdmacgregor@gov.pe.ca>; sanet
<sanet-mg@amani.ces.ncsu.edu>
> Subject: Re: Vinton Soybean prices
> Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 12:28 PM
>
> So what are all these new organic farmers going to do with the HEL
soybean
> ground this year? Rich
>
> Greg & Lei Gunthorp wrote:
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> > A lot of CRP ground is coming out of the ten year program. $20 beans
> > compared to less than $6 beans was too big of an incentive. CRP ground
> > that had no fertilizer or pesticides on it in the last three years is
> > eligible for organic production upon exiting the Conservation Reserve
> > Program. (That would be almost all of the CRP ground.) I know of a lot
of
> > CRP ground that is now in organic production.
> > Greg
> >
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> > > From: Bob MacGregor <rdmacgregor@gov.pe.ca>
> > > To: hey4hogs@kuntrynet.com
> > > Subject: Re: Vinton Soybean prices
> > > Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 8:30 AM
> > >
> > > Greg,
> > > You lost me on that one. What is the special connection between CRP
and
> > organic grains/oilseeds markets?
> > > BOB
> > >
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At the time, I
promoted either requiring perennial cover -- preferably trees -- on CRP
lands or purchase of cultivation rights by the government. Hindsight is
always 20/20, I guess! If this land was too fragile to plow in 1985, it
is too fragile to plow now; as ever, shortsighted government policy puts us
back where we were a decade or more ago...
> If organic prices are down from oversupply, does this imply these lands
will be back in conventional ag. soon? After all, the best way to
stimulate more $$ from the feds not to grow crops is to start wholesale
plowing of these highly-erodable parcels -- and get the biggest net returns
expected from current markets (unless organic yields are turning out
competitive on these lands.....?).
> Damn, I hate to see all this happen!
> Thanks,
> BOB
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