Re: Pineapple prophets

Michele Gale-Sinex/CIAS, UW-Madison (mgs@aae.wisc.edu)
Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:42:53 -0500

Howdy all--

> > Michele wrote:
>
> > The whole agricultural system (incl. permaculture) human management
> > through and through.

No, I didn't write that.

I wrote my short reflection (about 100 words) on breeding re:
pineapples. I questioned whether organic ag should be basing its
research questions solely on perceived "consumer demand," which in my
mind amounts to a mindset similar to the industrial food system's.
Then I was gone for close to a week.

Doug, and others, if you're going to come after me, kindly base it
on things I've actually written, rather than what you think I've
written. And kindly stick to what I've written, rather than your
interpretations of that. This is not the first time this has happened
on SANET.

I raised a question about what "organic" means.

I based that question on the conversations I had with a couple-five
dozen organic farmers in Salem, Oregon, last month, at the Farmer
Cooperative Genome Project meetings. Not to mention my own
experience as a (noncertified) organic grower over the past 25 years.
And many conversations with organic growers, inspectors, and others,
over the past 20 years.

As for Grace and me being called "girls," the dictionary definition
of that term is "A female who has not yet attained womanhood." This
would not be the first time that a man attempted to infantilize women
with whom he disagrees, or by whom he has been piqued. But it is very
dismaying to see such disrespect among this group.

Finally, Doug, you wrote:

> Mishas is not fazed by my "constructive" criticism for 3 reasons:
>
> She is a mature and thoughtful person.
> She knows I like her.
> She knows I'm right, in this instance.

It is presumptuous in the extreme to speak of another person in this
way. If you want to know what I'm feeling or how I'm interpreting,
kindly ask me. It is not up to you to represent my, or anyone's,
feelings, opinions, or interpretations, to this group or elsewhere.
You do not know what I know.

Of course, what matters above all is that you be right.

peace
misha

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UW-Madison College of Ag and Life Sciences
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