Re: Pineapple prophets -Reply

Douglas M. Hinds (dmhinds@acnet.net)
Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:34:19 -0600

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Thanks for proving my point, Grace. You would do much better to refer to
the issue being discussed, but you don't and that's exactly where it begins
to get personal and insulting. The discussion is degraded when the will to
discuss is absent (which is also insulting), and that seems to be the case
to date as far as you are concerned. Any time you care to comment on the
main point I've bothered to examine within your supposed area of competence
- "compulsory organic certification", you might just gain a little more
respect. As things stand, you're fair game until such time you decide to
make a real contribution to a legitimate discussion, instead of pretending
to have been injured and spewing out colored words like those underlined
below. I find that incongruent. Your rose to the bait all right, but not
yet in a constructive way. I expect more and try to provide more myself.
If you can't take the heat, why cook? Have you nothing to contribute? Why
not engage in a little healthy dialog? (That's what this forum is for).
I'm open to whatever reasoning you may be able to provide, in relation to
sustainable agricultural themes such as the above, the induction via
natural means of pineapple floration or the seasonality if the fruit and
whether that should or shouldn't be extended.

D.H.

Grace J Gershuny wrote:

> I am snipping one piece of Mr. Hinds' diatribe as an example of an
> unwarranted (and, for what it's worth, inaccurate) personal attack that
> degrades the discussion. I will not be baited, and my silence is a
> reflection only of that.
>
> Grace Gershuny
>
> Douglas Hinds wrote:
>
> ...Grace already wants to obligate organic
> certification. Will she outlaw pineapple whose flowering was induced
> next? How will she take this thread? will she take it to heart,
> constructively? I hope so, and am sure that even Grace will eventually
> learn humility and that she too will become a constructive influence,
> just as they tried to teach her to do at Goddard, all along.
>
> Sorry girls, but you posture really doesn't help - it's much too far
> from the field and too entrenched in an ivory tower on the one hand and
> bureaucratic arrogance on the other (Grace didn't even bother to reply
> to my response to her letter to "The Economist" magazine).
>
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Thanks for proving my point, Grace.  You would do much better to refer to the issue being discussed, but you don't and that's exactly where it begins to get personal and insulting.  The discussion is degraded when the will to discuss is absent (which is also insulting), and that seems to be the case to date as far as you are concerned.  Any time you care to comment on the main point I've bothered to examine within your supposed area of competence - "compulsory organic certification", you might just gain a little more respect.  As things stand, you're fair game until such time you decide to make a real contribution to a legitimate discussion, instead of pretending to have been injured and spewing out colored words like those underlined below.  I find that incongruent.  Your rose to the bait all right, but not yet in a constructive way.  I expect more and try to provide more myself.  If you can't take the heat, why cook?  Have you nothing to contribute?  Why not engage in a little healthy dialog?  (That's what this forum is for).  I'm open to whatever reasoning you may be able to provide, in relation to sustainable agricultural themes such as the above, the induction via natural means of pineapple floration or the seasonality if the fruit and whether that should or shouldn't be extended.

D.H.

Grace J Gershuny wrote:

I am snipping one piece of Mr. Hinds' diatribe as an example of an
unwarranted (and, for what it's worth, inaccurate) personal attack that
degrades the discussionI will not be baited, and my silence is a
reflection only of that.

Grace Gershuny

Douglas Hinds wrote:

...Grace already wants to obligate organic
certification. Will she outlaw pineapple whose flowering was induced
next?  How will she take this thread? will she take it to  heart,
constructively?  I hope so, and am sure that even Grace will eventually
learn humility and that she too will become a constructive influence,
just as they tried to teach her to do at Goddard, all along.

Sorry girls, but you posture really doesn't help - it's much too far
from the field and too entrenched in an ivory tower on the one hand and
bureaucratic arrogance on the other (Grace didn't even bother to reply
to my response to her letter to "The Economist" magazine).

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Douglas M. Hinds, Director General
Centro para el Desarrollo Comunitario y Rural A.C. (CeDeCoR)
(Center for Community and Rural Development) - (non profit)
Petronilo Lopez No. 73 (Street Address)
Apdo. Postal No. 61 (Mailing Address)
Cd. Guzman, Jalisco 49000 MEXICO
U.S. Voice Mailbox:  1 630 300 0550 (e-mail linked)
U.S. Fax Mailbox:  1 630 300 0555 (e-mail linked)
Tel. & Fax:  011 523 412 6308 (direct)
e-mail: dmhinds@acnet.net, dhinds@ucol.mx,
cedecor@acnet.net, cedecor@ipnet.com.mx
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