Loren Muldowney wrote:
> > I was looking to gage the responsiveness of participants
> > in the field of organic/sustainable agriculture.
> I see that very few will respond at all.
> > You object to
> > supporting those who have chosen a "criminal lifestyle",
> NO, I don't, and I didn't say that. I object to allowing others to
> "save money" by using powerless people who have no choice. I object to
> allowing others to escape appropriate costs and to profit by paying less
> than would be a reasonable pay for the labor involved. I think this
> further distorts the relationship between the price paid for any product
> or commodity and the currently "externalized" costs which manifest
> themselves as pollution, soil erosion, and indeed the distruction of
> society which clearly increases and encourages criminal behavior and
> marginalizes people and gives them no real options.
> For these reasons, I rule it both unsustainble and not organic.
> "Cheating" of any kind undermines real valuation
> processes and feedback to price setting. Cheating by using contract
> prison labor rather than farm owner and employee labor is no different
> in principle from cheating by using "synthetic miracle stuff" on an
> organic farm,
> instead of actually going to the trouble of building permanent soil
> > I am curious why you think that training prisoners to do farm
> > labor is so wrong,
> Please quote me if you really think I said that. What YOU did say was
> "There is a free labor source waiting to be tapped" and you proposed the
> use of this "free" labor as a solution to the economics of a somewhat
> labor intensive industry. I don't believe in "free labor," only that
> some people don't get paid.
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