Re: Chicken Feed

Greg Gunthorp (hey4hogs@kuntrynet.com)
Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:41:30 -0500

I would recommend a pre 1960's version of Morrison Feeds and Feeding.
I personally would start with a ladino clover pasture for protein if it
will grow in your region. Alfalfa would be my second choice. If those
aren't options, how about the Crimson Clover, Medics, or Berseem Clover?
Next on the list for winter pasture would be kale, rape, or cabbage. Rape
or Kale would provide the most tons. I would suspect Rape would be highest
in protein. It is somewhat drought tolerant and very tolerant of cold
weather. I think you are going to have trouble getting around the cooking
the soybeans. I did recall reading once that somebody was doing some work
on breeding soybeans with very low levels of trypsin inhibitors. If anyone
knows of anything along those lines I would like to hear of it. My old
Feeds and Feeding lists legume pastures, peanut meal, fish meal, meat meal,
and dairy by products as alternatives for protein sources.
Good luck,
Greg Gunthorp
Free Range hog farmer
LaGrange, IN

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> From: Edna M Weigel <eweigel@juno.com>
> To: sanet-mg@amani.ces.ncsu.edu
> Subject: Chicken Feed
> Date: Sunday, December 27, 1998 10:53 PM
>
> Dear SANET'ers:
> BACKGROUND:
> I have a flock of six Rhode Island Red chickens which range on
> three sides of my garden and are a tremendous help in controlling
> grasshoppers. I have customers clamoring to pay $3.00/dozen for my few
> excess eggs. One of my customers is chemically sensitive and cannot
> tolerate the certified organic eggs from the food co-op but has no
> problem with my eggs. Besides what they find in their 0.6 acre pasture
> and what I can spare from the garden (not much this time of year), the
> chickens get all they want of a mixture of organic corn meal, organic
> cracked wheat, sea salt, and kelp supplement. In addition, I feed them a
> small daily serving of cooked organic soy beans. They get no calcium
> supplement, but our soil contains plenty of calcium and the egg shells
> are noticeably harder than those of commercial eggs. 5 hens lay an
> average of 3 eggs per day without supplemental light or heat, so I don't
> think that's bad for mid-winter.
> PROBLEMS:
> I have been unable to find a source of organic stock feed in this
> area (Southeastern Arizona). The people at the feed stores either
> lecture me on the quality of their favorite brand of commercial feed or
> ask "what's organic?". Our county agent wasn't any more help. So these
> chickens get food intended for human consumption and I'm not quite
> breaking even on feed costs even at $3.00/dozen for their eggs. I plan
> to alleviate this problem somewhat by growing as much of their food as
> possible. I grew a small patch of corn last summer and plan to also try
> wheat, sorghum, oats, and soy beans next summer. Meanwhile, I'd like to
> double or tipple my flock which would make soy bean cooking rather
> onerous. (I now cook 4 cups of dry soy beans every 12 or 13 days and
> freeze small batches.)
> QUESTIONS:
> Is it necessary to cook the soy beans? The chickens will eat
> soaked beans but prefer them cooked. I fed soaked soy beans until I read
> a very brief statement somewhere saying not to give them raw soy beans.
> The chicken feed recipes I've found call for de-hulled soy meal. Is
> there something in soy hulls that is toxic if not cooked? Would other
> beans be a better choice for supplying protein? I already grow pinto
> beans, cow peas, and lima beans for my husband and I and they cook much
> faster than soy beans. Would other beans need cooking?
> COMMENT:
> I'm hoping someone out there has the knowledge to help me even
> though I have a small operation. I'll also appreciate other suggestions
> for easy-to-grow (preferably heat and drought tolerant) chicken feed.
> The chickens especially enjoy onions, garlic, cole crops, and chard, so I
> plan to grow extra for them next year. Most of those vegetables grow
> (very slowly) through our relatively mild winters if they get a good
> start before it turns cold, but the wildlife (bird and rodent) also like
> them so I have a challenge when natural food sources give up for the
> winter.
> I look forward to any enlightenment you can give me on chicken feed.
> Best regards, Edna Weigel
>
>
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