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I think that your thoughts are shared by a large portion of the =
sustainable and organic consumers.
But I think out here in the midwest, you are going to have a hard time =
putting together a sustainable=20
agriculture without livestock.
We are coming back to my question I like to ask too frequently. What =
defines sustainability? Profitability has to be at the top of the list =
or we are building systems that aren't going to be carried on by future =
generations. Is US agriculture sustainable if we get rid of the crop =
producers AND the livestock producers? We need production systems that =
are PROFITABLE, don't degrade the environment, and build strong rural =
communities. Can we have that without a vibrant livestock industry? I =
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Best wishes,
Greg
Gunthorp's Pasture-ized Pork
LaGrange, Indiana (a stones throw from Ohio & Michigan)
hey4hogs@kuntrynet.com
visit our farm at www.grassfarmer.com
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From: Betsy Levy <blevy@mail.utexas.edu>
To: Karl Hakanson <hakanson@students.wisc.edu>; =
steved@ncatark.uark.edu <steved@ncatark.uark.edu>
Cc: sanet-mg@shasta.ces.ncsu.edu <sanet-mg@shasta.ces.ncsu.edu>
Date: Saturday, August 08, 1998 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: No-Till Mania vs Organic
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Right on - or, to take it further, what's wrong with cutting back on =
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At 03:42 PM 8/6/98 -0700, Karl Hakanson wrote:
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Greetings,
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Um, hate to sound simplistic here, but...
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We grow too much corn and beans! Get the cattle and hay and =
pasture and manure back to places like, ta-da...Iowa. Was it ever that =
way once or did we just dream it?
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What's wrong with gettin' all those ruminant doggies on =
(rotational) pastures and off those stinking mega feedlots. Oh, well, I =
mean besides big companies making big money just the ways things are.
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Was that a good fist post to sanet? I heard sanet was just a =
bunch of yuppies forever defining sustainable ag. Is that true?
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Good Day!
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Karl Hakanson
Natural Resource Educator
Univ. of Wisconsin-Extension
Baraboo, Wisconsin, USA (is this an international list?)
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Um, hate to sound simplistic here,=20 but...
We grow too much corn and beans! Get the cattle = and hay=20 and pasture and manure back to places like, ta-da...Iowa. Was it = ever=20 that way once or did we just dream it?
What's wrong with = gettin'=20 all those ruminant doggies on (rotational) pastures and off = those=20 stinking mega feedlots. Oh, well, I mean besides big = companies=20 making big money just the ways things are.
Was that a = good fist=20 post to sanet? I heard sanet was just a bunch of yuppies forever = defining sustainable ag. Is that true?
Good = Day!
Karl=20 Hakanson
Natural Resource Educator
Univ. of=20 Wisconsin-Extension
Baraboo, Wisconsin, USA (is this an = international=20 list?)
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