Re: Inerts

Sal (sals@rain.org)
Fri, 24 Jul 1998 08:30:29 -0700

They're Back I feel this National Organic Standards
Board is owned by the USDA or will be and I don't agree with a lot of what
they
are doing. I feel the NOSB does not help small growers and they showed us
that
they feel there are no small farms and they are not on the small growers side
.I feel if someone wants to sell inputs to organic growers they must disclose
so the farmer knows his inputs and what they contain. This is just another
back
door set up deal by those in bed with the USDA. They could not get their wick
ness in the front door so they are coming in the back door . Check it out.
Organic is not about making deals with the USDA or NOSB or even the Organic
Farmers Marketing Association to allow non disclosed stuff to be labeled
organic. I think what is not organic must be labeled so if known example:
-USDA organic fertilizer 90 % bull shit and 5% gen altered biocide and 5%
lab
made bgh or what ever inert ingredient that the USDA feels is an inert
ingredient.

Just say no to the USDA /NOSB takeover of the word organic and the take
over of
all our certifiers and all our inspectors. Just say no to turning organic into
a political football subject to hard money soft money and back door deals.

here's an update on the Organic Standards from our farmer friends:

, Inc.
Communication/Telecommunication Committee
Eric Kindberg co-chair with Cissy Bowman

Further information from erorganic@aol.com
OMFA Website: www.iquest.net/ofma

INFORMATION RELEASE: July 22, 1998
Secretary Glickman of the USDA holds a public meeting on the role of the
National Organic Standards Board.
Washington DC

An invitation to meet with Secretary Glickman and staff:
Keith Jones, Director of the USDA National Organic Program invited the
National Organic Standards Board members and the public attending the
National
Organic Standards Board Meeting to meet with Secretary Glickman at the USDA's
Administration Building on Independence Ave. 3:30 PM, Wednesday, July 22.
Undersecretary Romminger, Assistant Secretary for Agricultural Marketing,
Mike
Dunn and Regulatory Services and Enrique Figuereo Administrator of the
Agricultural Marketing Service were present along with other USDA staff.
Secretary Glickman indicated that it is evident from the number and wide
diversity of public comments received by the Department to the Proposed
Organic Rule that organic is a mainstream concern in the US. The USDA is
prepared to view it as such.
During the meeting, Secretary Glickman indicated the USDA is not concerned
about producing more corn and soybeans, but keeping more farmers farming.
In his statement, Secretary Glickman assured the attendees substances will be
considered by the Department for inclusion on the National List only if they
are a recommendation of the National Organic Standards Board after proper
petition, review and evaluation. This is consistent with the language and
spirit of the Organic Foods Production Act (OFPA) passed by the US Congress
in
1990.
The Organic Farmers Marketing Association is appreciative that the USDA has
publicly indicated its support for implementation of the Organic Foods
Production Act as passed by Congress.
BACKGROUND ON THE BOARD AND THE NATIONAL LIST CONTENT AND PROCEDURES:
Quoting the Senate Committee Report accompanying passage of the Act:
"The Secretary is required to appoint a 13-member National Organic Standards
Board to assist generally in the development of standards and specifically to
formulate a Proposed National List. The Committee
regards this Board as an essential advisor to the Secretary on all issues
concerning this bill and anticipates that many of the key decisions
concerning standards will result from recommendations by this Board."
The Boards key role in the National List process: "The Board is authorized to
hire a staff director and the Secretary may detail USDA staff or provide for
the hiring of staff to work with the Board. The Board shall convene Technical
Advisory Panels to provide
scientific evaluations of the materials considered for inclusion on the
Proposed National List. Such Technical Advisory Panels should include
agronomists, entomologists, toxicologists, soil scientists, and
other scientists with appropriate expertise in the task of the Panel.
The Board is generally responsible for advising the Secretary on all aspects
of the implementation of this bill. Specifically, the Board is responsible
for
evaluating substances for inclusion on the Proposed National List."
Details of the National List, its content and procedures for inclusion on the
List are found in the Senate Report:
"The National List
Most consumers believe that absolutely no synthetic substances are used in
organic production. For the most part, they are correct and this is the basic
tenet of this legislation. But there are a few limited exceptions to the no-
synthetic rule and the National List is designed to handle these exceptions.
Organic farmers have used some synthetic substances for several good reasons.
For example, some organic farmers use certain synthetic analogues to natural
substances when those substances are difficult to obtain. Insect pheromones a
often-used biological control substance in organic farming, are very
difficult
to collect in nature and are therefore synthetically produced. The Committee
does not specifically disallow the use of pheromones in organic farming
simply
because they are synthetically produced when pheromones are effective and
ecologically benign.
The Committee does not intend to allow the use of many synthetic substances.
This legislation has been carefully written to prevent widespread exceptions
or "loopholes" in the organic standards which would circumvent the intent of
this legislation. The few synthetic substances that are widely recognized as
safe and traditionally used in organic production are explicitly cited in the
bill as potential items to be included on the National List if the Board and
the Secretary approve of their use.
The Board and the Secretary may consider allowing the use of synthetic active
ingredients in the following categories only: pheromones; copper and sulfur
compounds; soaps; horticultural oils; toxins derived from bacteria; treated
seed; fish emulsions; vitamins and minerals; livestock parasiticide and
medicines; and production aids such as machinery cleansers (including
netting,
tree wraps and seals, insect traps, sticky barriers, row covers, and
equipment
cleansers).
Organic farmers also use substances in which the active ingredient is known
to
be natural but which also contain inert ingredients that are undisclosed as a
matter of trade secret law under the Federal Insecticide Fungicide
Rodenticide
Act. The Committee suspects that many of these inert ingredients are
synthetic. For example, adjuvants would fall into this category. Until such
time as FIFRA is altered to require the full disclosure of inert ingredients,
organic farmers should be allowed to continue using compounded substances if
the active ingredient is natural and if use of the substance is recommended
by
the National Organic Standards Board and approved by the Secretary for
inclusion on the National List. However, in order for the National Organic
Standards Board to evaluate whether certain compounds should be listed, the
Board will need some information about the inert ingredients in question. The
Committee directs the Board to seek the advice of the Administrator of the
EPA, who has information on inert ingredients submitted as part of
registration, as to whether such inert material would be appropriate for
organic production. EPA's response will not limit it's regulatory
responsibility for such material. Almost all state and private organization
standards also provide for certain exceptions from the no-synthetic rule,
some
more explicitly than others.
Page 299
In deciding upon an acceptable list of materials for the Organic Standards
Board and the Secretary to consider the Committee surveyed State and private
regulations to ensure that the above categories, while more restrictive than
most of the current standards, will indeed protect the integrity of the
organic product while at the same time provide the producer a reasonable
amount of flexibility on production materials. The Committee understands that
just because a substance is natural does not mean that it is safe and
appropriate for organic production. The National List may also include
natural
substances otherwise allowed under this title but which are determined to be
harmful to human health or the environment and inconsistent with organic
farming. Certain botanical pesticides may be considered by the Organic
Standards Board and the Secretary to be inappropriate for organic production
because their use poses significant harm to human health or the environment.
Whatever natural items appear on the National List shall be prohibited from
use in organic production. Finally, the National List is designed to cover
ingredients used inprocessing. The bill allows that up to five percent of
processed food labeled "organically produced" may contain non-synthetic
ingredients which are not organically produced if those ingredients are
included on the National List. The five percent figure was arrived at after
consulting with various organic food processors as the amount of flexibility
necessary in processed food. The Committee intends that the guideline for
processed food ingredients on the National List be that some ingredients are
difficult or impossible to obtain. An example might be certain spices that
are
unavailable at this time from an organic farm It may also include items that
are not technically organically produced such as yeast. Several steps must be
taken before an item appears on the National List in any of the above
categories.
First the Organic Standards Board must review the substances in question
based
upon criteria cited in the bill and with the aid off the Board's technical
panels. The Board may decide what substances require review. As well,
individuals may petition the Board to evaluate substances for inclusion on
the
National List. The Board then constructs a Proposed National List which is
submitted to the Secretary as a recommendation for composition of the Final
National List.
The Secretary may not include exemptions for synthetic substances other than
those exemptions recommended by the National Organic Standards Board. The
Proposed National List represents the universe of synthetic materials from
which the Secretary may choose. Before establishing the final National List
the Secretary shall publish the Proposed National List in the Federal
Register
and seek Public comment. The same procedures are to be followed for any
amendments to the National List."
FROM THE 101 ST CONGRESS
2nd Session SENATE REPORT 101-357
FOOD, AGRICULTURE, CONSERVATION, AND TRADE ACT OF 1990
REPORT OF THE COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE, NUTRITION, AND FORESTRY
UNITED STATES SENATE
TO ACCOMPANY S. 2830 together with ADDITIONAL AND MINORlTY VIEWS
JULY 6, l990 0rdered to be printed
At 08:18 AM 7/24/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Sal,
>
>Please provide more information on what is going on!  We are still in
>the dark, but we know it is bad!  To what are you referring?  Has
>something happened at USDA recently?
>
>Loren in NJ
>_____________________________________________
>
>
>>Sal wrote:
>>
>> they are back and at the  back door and this time with a undisclosed inert
>> ingredients sneak attack !  I have read what they call inert . just say no
to
>> the NOB and the USDA take over of the word organic .
>>
>> Organic farmers also use substances in which the active ingredient is known
to
>> >be natural but which also contain inert ingredients that are
undisclosed as
a
>> >matter of trade secret law under the Federal Insecticide Fungicide
>> Rodenticide
>> >Act. The Committee suspects that many of these inert ingredients are
>> >synthetic. For example, adjuvants would fall into this category.  Until
such
>> >time as FIFRA is altered to require the full disclosure of inert
ingredients,
>> >organic farmers should be allowed to continue using compounded substances
if
>> >the active ingredient is natural and if use of the substance is
>> recommended by
>> >the National Organic Standards Board and approved by the Secretary for
>> >inclusion on the National List.
>>
>> NO way USDA Watch out here they come again. We organic farmers must know
the
>> inert ingredients . I don't care about the FIFRA We at  ccof always know
the
>> inert ingredients before we  use it or put it on the safe list. one time I
did
>> not buy beneficial nemtodes because they contained 1 tenth of 1% biocide . 
I
>> called CCOF and found out that because of 1 tenth of 1% biocide it was
enough
>> to make it not organic.Yet now I will not even get to know what the inert
>> ingredients are because the USDA is taking over CCOF and all the other
>> certifiers.If you hear the words undisclosed inert ingredients run and if
you
>> are organic run fast the other way.  I say  if they want the organic label
>> they must disclose.  Here they come again USDA and friends stealing the
word
>> organic.  stealing away our organicness and trying to pull the wool over
our
>> eyes.  fox is sly and now the fox  is watching the hen house. to me organic
>> inputs cannot have undisclosed ingredients no matter what the USDA says. 
back
>> for round 2 .  Here they come again.  this time sneaking in undisclosed
inert
>> ingredients.  I the farmer not any NOSB or USDA has the right to know the
>> ingredients I am using on organic land so I the grower can make a choice .
>> the whole idea of organic growing and all  we have to go through is to rid
our
>> customers and us of undisclosed stuff. Its the undisclosed stuff the stuff
the
>> USDA does not tell you I worry most about in this day of gene alter stuff
and
>> was told that this is how the USDA will be getting their gene alter stuff
>> in to
>> organic growing  as undisclosed inert ingredients I don't know if that is
true
>> or not but it looks like it to me..  inert can mean anything so thus
organic
>> will mean nothing. beware of the woof in sheep clothing. they act like the
>> sheep but are the woof and can fool some of the people most of the time but
>> not
>> all the people all the time.  about as far as I can throw them.
>> Sals@rain.org
>> check out an organic growers homepage at:
>>
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>
Sals@rain.org
check out an organic growers homepage at:
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