Well, okay, but that's part of my point. Scientific rationality and market logic are ways of thinking, i.e. they are belief systems, and they have a moral and social component to them. For example, scientific rationality and market logic are developed belief systems that in the Western world replaced systems of belief based on God, for instance, or economic thought that wasn't based on commodification and exchange. Anyway, appealing only to rationality and logic without examining the underlying moral and social components is problematic. (A point you seemed to agree with.)Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:46:05 -0500 From: "Wilson, Dale"
Subject: RE: Mary Hendrickson's post: Authority Mary, Presenting "scientific rationality" and "market logic" as "belief systems" in opposition to "moral and social criteria" is very confusing. I think you are comparing apples and oranges here.
You're right on -- it's always a tension between the individual and the collective. Western societies have tended to emphasize the individual, dating back to Judeo-Christian thought.This is very appealing in many ways, but it sounds like an expansive version of the neighborhood association common in suburban U.S. that dictates what color you can paint your house, etc. That kind of thing has always rubbed me the wrong way. I guess they will import like-minded people. In the long run, this will require a great deal of social control to maintain. It sounds like a green version of Calvin's Geneva.
I think many of the people on this list ARE working at the local level and from the grassroots up. In fact, I would argue that is something that distinguishes sustainable agriculture and community food movements from mainstream enviornmental movements.IMO the green movement needs to become integrated in the actually-existing communities that deal with the mundane problems of ordinary life. Activists need to galvanize local sentiment toward eco-friendly behavior in local political involvement, as messy as that is. Local politics is the basis of decision-making in a pluralistic society. As long as Greens take a top down approach, working from academia, trying to influence mainly National policy, with media events, and exogenous activists, they will be perceived as part of the clueless cultural elite by local people.
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