RE: pesticide industry vs. auto industry -Reply

Harris, Craig (Craig.Harris@ssc.msu.edu)
Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:15:50 -0400

actually the food quality protection act, whose implementation by usepa is
currently being contested in washington, is intended to do what bob suggests
. . . indeed, it is intended to go one step further and compare the relative
risk of each chemical group of pesticides (based on mode of harmful impact
on humans) with the total amount of that risk from other sources, both
natural and anthropogenic . . . of course, like most things worth doing,
this will take a while to do well
cheers,
craig

craig k harris
dept of sociology
429b berkey hall
michigan state university
east lansing michigan 48824-1111
u.s.a.
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> ----------
> From: Bob MacGregor
> Sent: Wednesday, 10 June, 1998 12:55
> To: gardenbetty@earthlink.net; sanet-mg@shasta.ces.ncsu.edu
> Subject: Re: pesticide industry vs. auto industry -Reply
>
> >>>- No information currently exists (though this may change soon) on
> toxicity
> for 80% of the 75,000 chemicals listed by the EPA, because they have
> never
> been tested. These chemicals are in daily use in the U.S.<<<<
>
> I think it is unfair to focus solely on "chemical" (ie, man-made
> chemicals).
> Doing this makes it impossible to evaluate their relative riskiness
> compared to everyday things we use or consume. For example, to
> quote from a letter to the editor of New Scientist (7 Feb. 1998) by Cheryl
> Monks in reference to an earlier article about the harmful effects of
> pesticides:
> "The article also stated that bromoxynil is a carcinogen and mutagen.
> While this may be true, it is also true that parsnips, mushrooms and black
> pepper contain carcinogens (namely psoralens, hydrazines and piperine,
> respectively) and that lettuce, rhubarb and string beans, among many
> others, are kinown to be mutagenic. Government authorities haven't yet
> banned the population from eating them, and it is important that the true
> risk to health from pesticides be assessed and understood before
> jumping on the "all-pesticides-are-bad" bandwagon."
>
> I am ready to agree that heavy reliance on pesticides is not a
> sustainable strategy, and reducing dependence on them is desirable for
> that reason by itself. However, I would like to know whether exposure
> to any particular pesticide residue carries more risk of endocrine
> disruption, mutagenicity or carcinogenicity than naturally-occurring
> substances in the food I am consuming.... or, even if such residues
> appreciably add to naturally-occuring risks. I presume that pesticide
> residues in food (and elsewhere in the environment) are harmful, but I
> don't know how this compares with the general level of risk that is
> already out there.
> Heck, that wonderful smell in the spruce woods is as overpowering as
> the odour after the neighbouring farmer sprays a field -- it might also be
> as carcinogenic as any farm chemical for all I know. And that is the
> point: I don't know. So, in fairness to those of us who are trying to
> make informed decisions about managing our exposure to all sorts of
> substances in our environment, let's advocate a comparative set of
> studies of relative toxicity, relative carcinogenicity and relative
> mutagenicity. (eg chemical X is twice as mutagenic as lettuce but only
> two-thirds as mutagenic as rhubarb)
> I know how worried/comfortable I am about the types of food I eat, but I'd
> like to be able to use that level of comfort as an index to how worried I
> should be about man-made substances in/on my food or in the water or
> air.
>
> for what it's worth,
> BOB
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