Re: American Cancer Society and Pesticides

Rich Molini (richmo@indy.net)
Sat, 15 Nov 1997 16:48:59 -0500

Howdy Folks,
I would like to add to Charles' and Ann's comments by saying in a less
eloquent way that although the jury is out concerning the direct
evidence to human health effects, there are many documented
environmental effects ( for example; microbe to insect up to and thru
small mammal populations). There is no speculation there.
A poison is a poison, and if some farmers and agribiz use the ACS
statement to justify their practices, then they are surely being
shortsighted and displaying little respect for the earth and "all" its
inhabitants. We ( from a velvet bug to Dwayne Andreas of ADM ) are all
in this together and need each other to eventually survive the
silly and selfish pursuit of accumulating all the money and goods one
can. It's too bad the honey bees don't have a society of experts to
elucidate their position and conclusions.
Later Rich

E. Ann Clark, Associate Professor wrote:
>
> Folks: as usual, Chuck Benbrook has provided useful insight and
> evidence from his years of analysis and thought on this topical
> subject. I would simply reinforce his thoughts as follows:
>
> 1. the outcome of the study was predetermined by the way the
> question was framed at the outset;
>
> 2. the only health risk studied was cancer (despite evidence of
> other adverse impacts on human health, including endocrine disrupter-
> effects on reproductive fitness, behavior, and immune system
> dysfunction - many of which are unknown to the public at large);
>
> 3. risk is assessed from individual pesticides, one at a
> time, despite the fact that multiple biocide residues are typically
> found on fruits and vegetables (and drinking water); and
>
> 4. evidence is literally not available even for this slim zone of
> inference (cancer risk from an residues of an individual biocide) for
> many biocides, or for continuous small doses as against large, short-
> term exposures
>
> Each of these weaknesses of our existing database (the one reviewed
> by this panel of experts) was profiled back in 1989 in the NAS
> publication Alternative Agriculture, edited by my former chair, John
> Pesek. So, while it is entirely correct to reach the conclusions
> reached, such conclusions will be of comfort only to people who do
> not realize how limited is the foundation upon which such calming
> pronouncements are based.
>
> It is interesting to contrast the tone and direction of the findings
> of this environmental tox group with that of the USGS in their fresh
> new report on biocide contamination of surface and groundwater. One
> of their main conclusions is that we do not have enough information
> to begin to interpret most of what they have found - and what they
> have found is scary enough even now.
>
> In the USGS report, the *lack of evidence of harm* is NOT inferred to
> mean the *absence of harm*, as is shamelessly done in the ACS report
> on cancer. Rather, they argue for the need for additional research
> to attempt to unravel the risks - although I personally tend towards
> the conclusions reached in Benbrook's great book Pest Management at
> the Crossroads, Theo Colborn's Our Stolon Future, and others -
> namely, it will never be possible to tease apart all of these
> impacts, but sufficient evidence exists to support the need for
> fundamental changes in how we grow crops, control household pests,
> and manage our lawns to avoid or greatly minimize biocide use
> entirely.
>
> And Chuck's point on comparing one kind of risk with another (e.g.
> tobacco smoking) is very apt - these folks have done a real
> disservice to the society depending on them for expert advice. Ann
>
> ACLARK@crop.uoguelph.ca
> Dr. E. Ann Clark
> Associate Professor
> Crop Science
> University of Guelph
> Guelph, ON N1G 2W1
> Phone: 519-824-4120 Ext. 2508
> FAX: 519 763-8933
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