Re: FWD: Compost BMP Table of Contents/Words Speak Louder...

KASHMANIAN.RICHARD@epamail.epa.gov
Tue, 24 Oct 95 13:53:00 EST

Thanks for your response. Your previous message (e.g., the quotes) did
imply
to me that you felt that words were not important. Your new message corrects
this misperception, but it now creates another perception, hopefully this too
is a
misperception. Your examples suggest that word changes are only based on ill
intentions. You emphasize the twisted terms that people have come up with to
cover up evil, mislead, deceive, confuse, or not offend some of us. You must
be
aware that there are positive influences resulting from words and word
changes.
Your debate against positive vocabulary changes uses generalizations from some
extreme, negative examples. These examples do not address the real issues and
questions that I raised and make the unusual sound typical, responses I more
typically see in political debates.

Please explain how replacing "yard waste" with "yard trimmings" is
analogous
to your examples of "ethnic cleansing" or "vertically challenged" -- I am
flabbergasted that you apparently think so. I hope that you did not infer
this from
what I have said. Nothing that I have said indicates that I am suggesting the
use
of terms to mislead, deceive, confuse, or cover up evil, nor should one be so
quick
to assume it. I am befuddled that these were the only examples in your
message
of how words can be used.

Just to be safe, let me spend some time on this matter. In composting,
we
can use terms that are understandable and send the appropriate message.
According to the National Association of Conservation Districts, "[t]he best
way to
promote positive behaviors is to promote positive attitudes." Indeed, if we
create
new or better terminology, we can take advantage of this as an opportunity to
educate the public why we are doing so and reiterate the benefits of
composting
and compost.

I have spoken to many people about the need for a better composting (and
recycling) vocabulary, including people in the media. They get concerned that
I will
then suggest some long, complicated, or unintelligible term. I then say "yard
trimmings", and they say, "Oh, that's okay. I like that." I do not expect a
problem
with "food scraps" and the other terms I use. So I firmly believe these types
of
terms would not fit into the concern you expressed. The "wool" is not "being
pulled over anyone's eyes". These terms are clear, neutral in tone, unlike
"waste"
which is in fact subjective and judgmental, more like what you are trying to
avoid.

Furthermore, if we agree that composting is beneficial, why should we
get off
on the wrong foot by referring to composting as "disposal" and the materials
we
compost as "waste"? Indeed, a logical but unfortunate extension of calling
the
feedstock materials "waste" is to refer to composting as "disposal". I do not
understand why these terms should be acceptable. If the answer is that we
have
always used these terms, I find this to be a weak excuse and not a good
reason. I
am sure that we did not always call leaves and grass clippings "yard waste".
Something happened to change our vocabulary. Maybe it was when we started to
dispose of them in landfills, and using the word "waste" helped provide local
governments with the ability to control their handling and destiny. But if we
are to
recover and compost them instead, why should we continue to call them "yard
waste"? Would we also want to say the forest floor is lined with "leaf" or
"yard
waste". Of course not!

From your message, you appear to prefer to react to undesirable
behaviors by
saying they are based on ignorance or stupidity. It is misplaced to call
people
stupid when they do not know what we really mean and we use the wrong words.
Why not avoid such behaviors by not explicitly or implicitly encouraging them
from
the start? This seems to be a more effective, active approach.

The other day I watched a story on the national news refer to
recyclables as
"junk" and "trash". How many consumers would want to buy products made from
recycled "junk" or "trash"? For many years, consumers believed that products
made from recycled materials were inferior to those made from virgin
materials,
and therefore would not show great preference to purchase these products. How
much of this was influenced by the terminology, rather than differences (if
any) in
quality, price, or other factors? In fact, many products contained recycled
materials but the manufacturer and marketer chose to not advertise this to
consumers, even though the products performed the same as products made from
virgin materials. Now that "recycled" is becoming more of a positive
attribute, it is
more often advertised to consumers. This is a good learning example for
composting. We do not need to use negative terms to refer to these materials.

Your recent message is also critical of the term "biosolids". I used
this term as
another example of an organization that created a new term or name, or
resisted
the use of a negative term -- if one considers that the quality of biosolids
has
improved over the past 20 or so years, primarily through greater industrial
pollution
prevention and pretreatment, one better understands the Water Environment
Federations interest to disassociate these residuals from some of the
"negative
baggage" attached to the word "sludge", especially if it has been composted.

Redefining ourselves and our products is nothing new and did not start
with
me. And composting should not consider itself off-limits to improvements and
changes. There is nothing nefarious about this. Choosing to use more
appropriate
terminology in this regard is not deceptive. It is simply a reflection of a
more
sensible, educated approach to materials handling.

Take care,
Richard Kashmanian
kashmanian.richard@epamail.epa.gov
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From: <jhaskett@asrr.arsusda.gov>
To: KASHMANIAN.RICHARD@EPAMAIL.EPA.GOV
October 18, 1995

I'm sorry that I seem to have given the impression that I don't
think words or what we call things can be important. Of course
they can, they can be used for murderous deception, vide
"ethnic cleansing". On the other hand there are instances in
which the poor wagon of a word's meaning is unable to support
the weight of importance it is pressed into bearing. When people
are no longer short but "vertically challenged" and some
mid-level functionary is "chief assistant to the assistant chief"
then we can tell that the axles are definitely straining.
I do believe that by a state definition of "waste" farmers have
been prevented from accepting grass clippings, and that people
have put old hoses in with old leaves as "yard waste" for
recycling, but this illustrates ignorance in some instances and
stupidity in others, for as Frank Zappa stated, studpity being more
abundant than hydrogen is arguably the main constituent of the
universe.

The danger in this concentration on vocabulary tailoring is that
it will appear either silly or deceptive. When someone finds
out what "biosolids" actually *are* will they laugh or get mad?
Speaking as someone who has had improperly reapplied biosolids
approach my rustic residence by surface laminar flow, I can say
that "OH BIOSOLIDS!" was not the term that sprang instantly to exclamation.

Clear and conventional language, carefully applied, can convey the
meaning it needs to. The goal is understanding, for once people
understand *why* composting is vital, then they will start to view
raked-grass-wet-old-leaves-cow-manure-coffee-grounds-carrot-peels-
and-some-really-gross-brown-stuff-lying-in-a-big-pile as a thing
of high value, if not beauty, even if it is called "waste".

Cheers,
Jonathan Haskett